How many spurs can you get off one socket on a ring?????

HappyHippyDad · Jan 7, 2015

A friend asked me to have a quick look at the electrics as she wasn't sure if the plasterer was doing it quite right!

On investigation I found the socket (on a ring) was already supplying one spur which fed 2 sockets (JB underfloorboards). The plasterer had already added another spur and then another spur off that spur, and he had another cable in the initial socket ready to feed another spur.

[ElectriciansForums.net] How many spurs can you get off one socket on a ring?????

So altogether the socket was to have 3 seperate spurs taken from it, feeding 5 extra sockets.

Tried to explain it to the plasterer, but he said he'd rang his electrician mate and they had said it was ok. Nice chap though and was quite happy to let me take over. :smile5:

trev · Jan 7, 2015

happyhippydad said:
A friend asked me to have a quick look at the electrics as she wasn't sure if the plasterer was doing it quite right

WT absolute holy F is going on? What kind of idiot do you have to be to get a plasterer to carry out electrical work.
Tell him from me that both him and his "electrician" mate are complete and utter bloody fools. If they have a problem with that they can come and see me.

Leesparkykent · Jan 7, 2015

your friend should of just got you to do it in the 1st place

polo1 · Jan 7, 2015

trev said:
WT absolute holy F is going on? What kind of idiot do you have to be to get a plasterer to carry out electrical work.
Tell him from me that both him and his "electrician" mate are complete and utter bloody fools. If they have a problem with that they can come and see me.

Subtle, luv it!:beatnik2:

HappyHippyDad · Jan 7, 2015

trev said:
WT absolute holy F is going on? What kind of idiot do you have to be to get a plasterer to carry out electrical work.
Tell him from me that both him and his "electrician" mate are complete and utter bloody fools. If they have a problem with that they can come and see me.

I doubt I'll see him again Trev, although he's hard to miss... six foot seven and built like a tank. I still told him he was wrong!! Said it nicely though..

Leesparkykent said:
your friend should of just got you to do it in the 1st place

I think you're probably right there.

trev · Jan 7, 2015

happyhippydad said:
I doubt I'll see him again Trev, although he's hard to miss... six foot seven and built like a tank. I still told him he was wrong!! Said it nicely though..

I don't think I could have sugar coated it mate.

GB.Kayak · Jan 7, 2015

happyhippydad said:
A friend asked me to have a quick look at the electrics as she wasn't sure if the plasterer was doing it quite right!

On investigation I found the socket (on a ring) was already supplying one spur which fed 2 sockets (JB underfloorboards). The plasterer had already added another spur and then another spur off that spur, and he had another cable in the initial socket ready to feed another spur.

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So altogether the socket was to have 3 seperate spurs taken from it, feeding 5 extra sockets.

Tried to explain it to the plasterer, but he said he'd rang his electrician mate and they had said it was ok. Nice chap though and was quite happy to let me take over. :smile5:

Was there some 'testing' going on here? Wago shorting line and neutral?

baldsparkies · Jan 7, 2015

They do it.
The whole set up see's loadings nothing more than 10 amps for years.
And despite your best efforts, years later,
They can't see what the problem is and simply say
"Its been like it for years, never had a problem" !!!
Give us strength lads, give us strength.

HappyHippyDad · Jan 7, 2015

GB.Kayak said:
Was there some 'testing' going on here? Wago shorting line and neutral?

Yep! Quite a bit!

Has anyone ever actually seen 5 conductors in one terminal in a socket? I've just had a quick look on the forum and I cant see that it is mentioned.. To not have been discussed on this forum which looks into every nook and cranny it must be beyond the realms of even the worst practise!!

baldsparkies · Jan 7, 2015

Yes but they were wired in 1.5 t&e.
Also figure of eight ring mains lovely job, lack of grommets just like yours.
Customer wanted my advise as had reservations about the sparks being used.
Advice !!
Kick him out
Rip it out
Start again.

Leesparkykent · Jan 7, 2015

baldsparkies said:
They do it.
The whole set up see's loadings nothing more than 10 amps for years.
And despite your best efforts, years later,
They can't see what the problem is and simply say
"Its been like it for years, never had a problem" !!!
Give us strength lads, give us strength.

this is normally the quote from the customer when you mention about having to install bonding as well. lol

Engineer54 · Jan 8, 2015

I can't see how you can get 5 x 2.5mm (12.5mm) in single solid core conductors into a sockets connection terminal... It's not as if you can even cut a stand off here and there!! ...lol!!

NDG Elecs · Jan 8, 2015

At least the knock out box is a nice deep one. So reduce the OPD to 20A and you will find the plasterer was right all along!! Pah, you lot know nowt!! Seriously though it is pretty bloody silly all in all. I would insist on either damaging walls or lifting floors to get that sorted out. Even if you could squeeze 5x2.5 in a terminal I would not do it.

tazz · Jan 8, 2015

Unless the owner is going to listen...........I would just walk away

Farmelectrics · Jan 8, 2015

get your bolster out chase the plaster off ha ha and do the electrical job properly and tell your plasterer mate to keep to plastering if he wanted to be a spark he should of done better at school lol

How many spurs can you get off one socket on a ring?????

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