Oh no ... Not Another Shed Thread!

GB.Kayak · Feb 24, 2015

Leesparkykent said:
You have done all your calculations etc so why are you looking for approval? Just crack on and get it done.

Its probably like flying solo for the first time ... going through the motions that you have done before but up until this point under some kind of supervision. Now that you have demonstrated a satisfactory circuit ... of the airfield ... including practising what to do if it all goes wrong; the instructor gets out and says all yours ... just bring her back without a scratch! Now prove it! I suppose I am looking for that second pair of eyes to check prior to launch!

Geordie Spark · Feb 24, 2015

GB.Kayak said:
Its probably like flying solo for the first time ... going through the motions that you have done before but up until this point under some kind of supervision. Now that you have demonstrated a satisfactory circuit ... of the airfield ... including practising what to do if it all goes wrong; the instructor gets out and says all yours ... just bring her back without a scratch! Now prove it! I suppose I am looking for that second pair of eyes to check prior to launch!

I'm confused dot com .... I thought Kayaks went in the water but now you're blathering about circling airfields in them.:confused5:

Maybe "Kayak" is also a type of flying boat?? ...:thinking:.... YES!!! .. that's it - it's a flying boat!! :smile5:

telectrix · Feb 24, 2015

a red bull drinking kayak. that's a first.

Leesparkykent · Feb 24, 2015

Geordie Spark said:
I'm confused dot com .... I thought Kayaks went in the water but now you're blathering about circling airfields in them.:confused5:

Maybe "Kayak" is also a type of flying boat?? ...:thinking:.... YES!!! .. that's it - it's a flying boat!! :smile5:

Here he is!

GB.Kayak · Feb 24, 2015

Leesparkykent said:
Here he is!

Now that is one thing I have never done ... but boy would I like to? Kayaking for 32 years ... electrical work, dabbling 'safely' here and there for perhaps a little less assisting with first fix during the rewiring of our house, wiring a plug in 'O' level physics and some other basics. When I left the RAF this became a little more formal with a few of those weekend, frequent flyer miles based, 17 D or Electrical Trainee courses. In the last weeks of my service I was able to complete my Civil Aviation Authority Private Pilots' Licence, in about 6 weeks. So do you think I can do more damage from the air or installing electrics? I am sure that there are many more jokes to be made at my expense ... though so far they have all left me laughing!

In between ... an Honours degree in Aeronautical Engineering ~ 400 Hz generators providing electrical power for avionics, the airworthiness 'joys' of electrical wiring loom fires due to carbon arc tracking across 'kapton' insulation. Then a Masters degree in Software Techniques for Computer Aided Engineering.

... the biggest freefall I have done in a kayak is 20 ' - 30 ' down a waterfall, google Right Angle Falls, on the River Etive in Scotland.

Leesparkykent · Feb 24, 2015

GB.Kayak said:
Now that is one thing I have never done ... but boy would I like to? Kayaking for 32 years ... electrical work, dabbling 'safely' here and there for perhaps a little less assisting with first fix during the rewiring of our house, wiring a plug in 'O' level physics and some other basics. When I left the RAF this became a little more formal with a few of those weekend, frequent flyer miles based, 17 D or Electrical Trainee courses. In the last weeks of my service I was able to complete my Civil Aviation Authority Private Pilots' Licence, in about 6 weeks. So do you think I can do more damage from the air or installing electrics? I am sure that there are many more jokes to be made at my expense ... though so far they have all left me laughing!

In between ... an Honours degree in Aeronautical Engineering ~ 400 Hz generators providing electrical power for avionics, the airworthiness 'joys' of electrical wiring loom fires due to carbon arc tracking across 'kapton' insulation. Then a Masters degree in Software Techniques for Computer Aided Engineering.

Here have a blue peter badge lol.

GB.Kayak · Feb 24, 2015

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Leesparkykent said:
Here have a blue peter badge lol.

Wow, thats for me? Just what I have always wanted ... if he hadn't become persona non-grata ... I would have said you ' ... fixed it for me'. Genuine ... thanks it's almost better, if genuine, than the 'Veterans' badge that I received from HM Gov! I believe that those who have done something other than being a 'REMF' should be recognised ... but a tinplate enamelled badge following 14 years and then redundancy ... :-((

Leesparkykent · Feb 24, 2015

GB.Kayak said:
Wow, thats for me? Just what I have always wanted ... if he hadn't become persona non-grata ... I would have said you ' ... fixed it for me'. Genuine ... thanks it's almost better, if genuine, than the 'Veterans' badge that I received from HM Gov! I believe that those who have done something other than being a 'REMF' should be recognised ... but a tinplate enamelled badge following 14 years and then redundancy ... :-((

I'm not knocking you at all mate it was just the size of the OP that made me giggle lol. I have been reading it in little snippets I'm about 3/4 of the way through ATM.

GB.Kayak · Feb 28, 2015

Leesparkykent said:
I'm not knocking you at all mate it was just the size of the OP that made me giggle lol. I have been reading it in little snippets I'm about 3/4 of the way through ATM.

Did you like the twist in the plot @ t' end ... ? ;-P

Silly Sausage · Feb 28, 2015

Here's a question on the same theme...
A backyard has a metallic stand pipe (coming out of the ground) and a socket outlet (RCDed back in the house) within arms reach.
Basically a shed without walls or a roof.
Does the standpipe require bonding to the MET?

Charlie_ · Feb 28, 2015

Archy Styrigg said:
Here's a question on the same theme...
A backyard has a metallic stand pipe (coming out of the ground) and a socket outlet (RCDed back in the house) within arms reach.
Basically a shed without walls or a roof.
Does the standpipe require bonding to the MET?

I would say no it doesn't.
Think of all those whirly gigs and washing lines that would need earthing

telectrix · Feb 28, 2015

adjective1.introduced or coming from without; not belonging or proper to a thing;external; foreign:

as the standpipe is outside, it's not coming inside. ergo... it's not, by definition, extraneous.

GB.Kayak · Feb 28, 2015

Archy Styrigg said:
Here's a question on the same theme...
A backyard has a metallic stand pipe (coming out of the ground) and a socket outlet (RCDed back in the house) within arms reach.
Basically a shed without walls or a roof.
Does the standpipe require bonding to the MET?

Would I be correct in thinking that the requirement, or otherwise, would be defined by a measurement of the impedance between the standpipe and the earth of the electrical installation at the socket outlet? If so, would local equipotential bonding be sufficient?

If so, the previous Poster's point about washing line poles is an interesting one. What happens if you are mowing the lawn and you cut the 2-core cable to the lawn mower? The mower shorts Line and Neutral, becoming live. If the current finds an earth path then the RCD operates. If the operator is the earth path then the aim is to reduce the earth path resistance to reduce the 'touch' voltage, potential difference, between the source of the voltage and earth; faulty lawn mower and earth. What happens if the person is in contact between the mower and a 'spiked' washing line or washing line pole?

Simonslimline · Feb 28, 2015

GB.Kayak said:
Would I be correct in thinking that the requirement, or otherwise, would be defined by a measurement of the impedance between the standpipe and the earth of the electrical installation at the socket outlet? If so, would local equipotential bonding be sufficient?

If so, the previous Poster's point about washing line poles is an interesting one. What happens if you are mowing the lawn and you cut the 2-core cable to the lawn mower? The mower shorts Line and Neutral, becoming live. If the current finds an earth path then the RCD operates. If the operator is the earth path then the aim is to reduce the earth path resistance to reduce the 'touch' voltage, potential difference, between the source of the voltage and earth; faulty lawn mower and earth. What happens if the person is in contact between the mower and a 'spiked' washing line or washing line pole?

Surely if the mower has a 2 core then it's class 2?

The fuse would or should operate under short circuit?

I could be reading this totally wrong however!

telectrix · Feb 28, 2015

hmm. i've just cut the mower cable. let me pick it up and hold onto the pole. flying pigs and darwinism comes into mind.

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