Do I need to be registered with a competents Person scheme for minor works?

Thomas Grange · Apr 28, 2015

hi all

my question is do I have to be registered with a competent person scheme like the niceic or elecsa to issue a minor works certificate after doing minor works in a clients dwelling?

i have completed my part p and 17th edition also testing and inspecting

thanks

walsh builders · Apr 28, 2015

You don't have to join one at all, but you'll have to pay a fee to your local authority for any notifiable work that you carry out if you don't.

shanky887614 · Apr 28, 2015

if you dont sign up then you need to notify building control before!!! work comences

if you join a self certification scheme e.g. nic, elcsa,napit, stroma etc then you can notify after

usually the yearly fee is cheaper than paying the fee to labc 2/3 times

telectrix · Apr 28, 2015

or join the revolution. boycott the scams. refuse to join. it worked for the poll tax.

yellowvanman · Apr 28, 2015

Thomas Grange said:
hi all

my question is do I have to be registered with a competent person scheme like the niceic or elecsa to issue a minor works certificate after doing minor works in a clients dwelling?

i have completed my part p and 17th edition also testing and inspecting

thanks

Only for notifiable work which includes bathrooms.

Leesparkykent · Apr 28, 2015

List of Notifiable work.

newtothis · Apr 30, 2015

Leesparkykent said:
List of Notifiable work.

Thanks for posting that grid it's a useful reference.
I found this one which basically says the same thing.

Quoting from:
Page 15 - 1.5.2 - IET - Electricians guide to the building regs.

Regulation 12(6A) of the building regulations 2010 describes notifyable work as follows:
A The installation of a new circuit
B The replacement of a consumer unit
C Any addition or alteration to existing circuits in a special location.

Midwest · May 1, 2015

You would also need to consider if the 'minor work' you are carrying out for your customer, is not part of build they are carrying out that requires building regs. For example, extending existing circuits in a kitchen extension. The customer would have to prove 'that safety standards have been achieved' (a lift from my LBC) in relation to the electrical work, before a final building regs certificate is issued for the building work. Otherwise LBC may charge a fee for inspection & testing (my LBC indicates a fee of £400+vat).
If you are running a business, restricted to minor work, I think you might find it hard. If it's private work, you just have to worry about the tax man

rustynails · May 1, 2015

Thomas Grange said:
my question is do I have to be registered with a competent person scheme like the niceic or elecsa to issue a minor works certificate after doing minor works in a clients dwelling?

I would hope that the general public would not let you in to their homes without being registered. The schemes are in place to check your qualifications, your work, your way of work and your level of insurance. By being a member of a registered scheme, especially NIC or ELECSA you are ensuring your customer that you are what you say you are.

Untill electrical work comes in line with gas work, making it illegal to carry out electrical work without being registered, then the world will be plagued by people like you trying to save a buck. If your a self employed electrician, and unless your subbying on a big contract, then you'll probably, depending on how well known you are, not know your workload after 2 months. For people like yourself, you need to save a little each week for next years registration. Then when that day comes around you have the money, simples. Get yourself registered, stick at it and you shall be rewarded. :seeya:

telectrix · May 1, 2015

rustynails said:
I would hope that the general public would not let you in to their homes without being registered. The schemes are in place to check your qualifications, your work, your way of work and your level of insurance. By being a member of a registered scheme, especially NIC or ELECSA you are ensuring your customer that you've probably come from working in a call centre, done a 5week course and are now a (cough,cough) fully qualified twin and earth fitter.

Untill electrical work comes in line with gas work, making it illegal to carry out electrical work without being registered, then the world will be plagued by people like you trying to save a buck. If your a self employed electrician, and unless your subbying on a big contract, then you'll probably, depending on how well known you are, not know your workload after 2 months. For people like yourself, you need to save a little each week for next years registration. Then when that day comes around you have the money, simples. Get yourself registered, stick at it and you shall be rewarded. :seeya:

corrected that for you.

rustynails · May 1, 2015

Touché, [FONT=Source Sans Pro, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Roboto, Arial, sans-serif]at least he's done the course tho![/FONT]

Midwest · May 1, 2015

rustynails said:
I would hope that the general public would not let you in to their homes without being registered. The schemes are in place to check your qualifications, your work, your way of work and your level of insurance. By being a member of a registered scheme, especially NIC or ELECSA you are ensuring your customer that you are what you say you are.

Untill electrical work comes in line with gas work, making it illegal to carry out electrical work without being registered, then the world will be plagued by people like you trying to save a buck. If your a self employed electrician, and unless your subbying on a big contract, then you'll probably, depending on how well known you are, not know your workload after 2 months. For people like yourself, you need to save a little each week for next years registration. Then when that day comes around you have the money, simples. Get yourself registered, stick at it and you shall be rewarded. :seeya:

OMG, where's my tin hat, incoming!