9.5 kW shower on 2.5!!!

Wonderwall · Mar 11, 2016

I was doing a eicr today. Came across a shower 9.5 kW Mira ,which had been installed for at least 8years.
its was brutally spurred off the bathroom heater which was protected by a 15'amp rewireable fuse. All, done in 2.5 t&e .
The client swore he knew nothing about it, and said he did have someone change the shower a good few years ago .
He also claimed it had never blown the fuse , I checked it was 15 amp wire , and I can only assume on cold days the heater was on as well and the shower was working hard.
Bizarre
To be fair the cable was still in good condition and belled out at 299.
whats going on here folks. It dosent add up!!

Simonslimline · Mar 11, 2016

They have short showers i guess.

Deleted member 9648 · Mar 11, 2016

I saw one once connected to the upstairs lighting circuit with a 30a wire in the 5a 3036 fuse. The 1.0mm cable had completely melted where it passed through insulation,but was visually undamaged in free air. It was chased into the wall on the drop to the CU and the heat damaged several of the cables chased in alongside it.
Householder had only just moved in....lovely surprise for them!

Pete999 · Mar 11, 2016

Wonderwall said:
I was doing a eicr today. Came across a shower 9.5 kW Mira ,which had been installed for at least 8years.
its was brutally spurred off the bathroom heater which was protected by a 15'amp rewireable fuse. All, done in 2.5 t&e .
The client swore he knew nothing about it, and said he did have someone change the shower a good few years ago .
He also claimed it had never blown the fuse , I checked it was 15 amp wire , and I can only assume on cold days the heater was on as well and the shower was working hard.
Bizarre
To be fair the cable was still in good condition and belled out at 299.
whats going on here folks. It dosent add up!!

Belled out? whats that

sparksburnout · Mar 11, 2016

Pete999 said:
Belled out? whats that

It's more commonly used to refer to a continuity test Pete, even more odd.

Octopus · Mar 11, 2016

Mind you, a 15A fuse protecting 2.5mm T&E is spot on, so maybe they don't use the shower!

Pete999 · Mar 11, 2016

sparksburnout said:
It's more commonly used to refer to a continuity test Pete, even more odd.

I realise what it means but as an Apprentice he should be taught to use the right terminology "belled out at 299" what apples sorry Ive got a headache and that sort of thing really ticks me off.

telectrix · Mar 11, 2016

Pete999 said:
I realise what it means but as an Apprentice he should be taught to use the right terminology "belled out at 299" what apples sorry Ive got a headache and that sort of thing really ticks me off.

too mmuch of the red?

Pete999 · Mar 11, 2016

telectrix said:
too mmuch of the red?

No mate run out of supplies, resupply today.

Wonderwall · Mar 11, 2016

Pete999 said:
I realise what it means but as an Apprentice he should be taught to use the right terminology "belled out at 299" what apples sorry Ive got a headache and that sort of thing really ticks me off.

I'm really sorry my terminology annoyed you so much, consider me well told off and I will stand in the corner for 20 mins.
Its a common terminology up my way. I assume it comes from the old testers which basically were an audible continuity.
i applied 500 volts to the cable and it gave me a reading of greater than 299 ohms. Hope that helps.

telectrix · Mar 11, 2016

what would you say, pete, if he said he'd meggered it?

Pete999 · Mar 11, 2016

Wonderwall said:
I'm really sorry my terminology annoyed you so much, consider me well told off and I will stand in the corner for 20 mins.
Its a common terminology up my way. I assume it comes from the old testers which basically were an audible continuity.
i applied 500 volts to the cable and it gave me a reading of greater than 299 ohms. Hope that helps.

299 Mohms you mean, Don't forget the dunces cap, and you have detention for the next week

Spoon · Mar 11, 2016

Wonderwall said:
I'm really sorry my terminology annoyed you so much, consider me well told off and I will stand in the corner for 20 mins.

I hope you realise that you have to go in 'the naughty corner' 1 min x age. So unless you are 20 years old then the time needs altering.....

sparksburnout · Mar 11, 2016

Or you could go and stand under a cold shower for 5 mins.

Spoon · Mar 11, 2016

Most showers have 2 power settings, maybe its always on the first one.

Victor · Mar 11, 2016

Come on guys, give the guy a break, we were all apprentices once. So he got the terminology wrong, none of us a perfect, but at least he had the balls to come on here and ask the question.

Spoon · Mar 11, 2016

Victor said:
Come on guys, give the guy a break, we were all apprentices once. So he got the terminology wrong, none of us a perfect, but at least he had the balls to come on here and ask the question.

I'm being a good boy..... Then again I always am....

hightower · Mar 11, 2016

Victor said:
Come on guys, give the guy a break, we were all apprentices once. So he got the terminology wrong, none of us a perfect, but at least he had the balls to come on here and ask the question.

Pretty sure Pete and the guys were having a larf, and pretty sure the OP took it as such given his response. All in good spirit I reckon.

Lucien Nunes · Mar 11, 2016

Now if someone said they had 'belled something out at 299' I would think 299 ohms, not 299 megohms, because 'bell test' is slang for continuity test not insulation. So here it was definitely the wrong term especially as the units weren't given although I don't mind the phrase 'bell out' used in the right place. Much like saying you 'paced out the length at 25' which would imply yards, but actually you meant measured with a rule at 25mm.

telectrix · Mar 11, 2016

hightower said:
Pretty sure Pete and the guys were having a larf, and pretty sure the OP took it as such given his response. All in good spirit I reckon.

good spirit, like this one.

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Wonderwall · Mar 11, 2016

I'm not offended. Trust me, I have bigger things to worry about at present than someone having a dig at me on tinternet
Also , I ain't an apprentice, ( unfortunately) don't know where that came from. Every day's a school day though and there's lots I don't know. And my terminology was very poor , bad habits I suppose. Apologies again to the grammar police

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