Smart meters problems

slacky1230 · May 11, 2017

Hey guys

Looking for abit advice regarding my electricity meter.

My energy company came today to install my smart meter. Basically they said they can't install it as at the cut out there's one natural going to the meter then from the cut out up to the board.

The chap said he can't change it to the smart meter as it requires 4 cables. Personally I can't see why that would matter as the lives go in and out.

Any one have any idea how the smart meters work?

Thanks

davesparks · May 11, 2017

DPG said:
I can't picture this, unless there's some sort of bypass going on. Why would there be a separate live straight to your consumer unit? Definitely need to get your camera out. Or sketch it - 'can yer tell what it is yet?' LOL

There's not a separate live to the CU. the neutral has been taken from the cutout directly to the CU and not from the meter to the CU. it makes difference at all to the metering of the supply.

7029 dave · May 11, 2017

Seen it loads of times on Heritage metering, some idiots sometimes stick the N of the customers side into cutout, or N block .I just bung up T3 on meter, makes no difference.

Octopus · May 11, 2017

davesparks said:
There's not a separate love to the CU. the neutral has been taken from the cutout directly to the CU and not from the meter to the CU. it makes difference at all to the metering of the supply.

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davesparks · May 11, 2017

Murdoch said:
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westward10 · May 11, 2017

Maybe the smart meter fitter has a picture of a meter set up and this didn't match his/her picture so the smart thing to do was not to touch anything.

slacky1230 · May 11, 2017

Im an electrician myself and I couldn't understand the problem. Surely the neutral is just for the lcd to work?

This is the second guy that's come to do it. The first one made a big deal staying it's unsafe if he touches it it could be a disaster etc.

The stupidest thing is he said he can't do the gas as it needs electric to work lol.

DPG · May 11, 2017

davesparks said:
There's not a separate live to the CU. the neutral has been taken from the cutout directly to the CU and not from the meter to the CU. it makes difference at all to the metering of the supply.

Yeah misunderstood the op. Made more sense when I saw the sketch.

7029 dave · May 11, 2017

My question would be, why the hell did he not take it out of the cut out, and terminate it direct into T3.?He is authorized to do that.?

slacky1230 · May 11, 2017

Where would t3 be?

mache · May 11, 2017

From my understanding the smart metre needs the neutral supply for self power operation. Not that they would take a lot of power but it means the users are not paying for the cost of metre operations, if that makes sense.
From this particular installation I,m guessing the metre installers don't carry tails or re prohibited from changing the characteristics of a current installation.

7029 dave · May 11, 2017

slacky1230 said:
Where would t3 be?

Terminal 3 of the meter. L1 N2(supply side) N3 L4. (to customers installation), you should know that if you are an Electrician.?

slacky1230 · May 11, 2017

Sorry misunderstood though you ment t3 at the cut out. The tails come through the wall from the cut out to the meter. The meter isn't in with the cut out

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7029 dave · May 11, 2017

slacky1230 said:
Sorry misunderstood though you ment t3 at the cut out. The tails come through the wall from the cut out to the meter. The meter isn't in with the cut out

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Yes seen this set up as stated in previous post. I don't fit smart meters. (not smart enough), however changed plenty of this type meters, I just bung up the third terminal, as far as the Electrical theory it does not matter the N is returned at source . I can't really comment anymore.

Rpa07 · May 11, 2017

7029 dave said:
I can't really comment anymore.

Why Dave, would you have to kill us?

7029 dave · May 11, 2017

Rpa07 said:
Why Dave, would you have to kill us?

NO NO

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