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Just been to look at a repair for a friend of a friend, flat over a shop with electric tripped out & won't come back on.
Went to the shop 1st to see landlord & found shop half in darkness with staff in a flap as all breakers were OK etc.
Told them I'd be back & went to sort out flat, Tennant had plugged in kettle & RCD tripped then wouldn't re-set or so they said. I unplugged the kettle & re-set the RCD but still no power on, used non contact tester on tails & found no live.
Started following tails & found another RCD on the opposite wall :mad:that had tripped, re-set and yes we have power.
Great I thought, then the landlord arrives to say that all shop power is back on.
Cut a story short: On checking above the suspended ceiling at the back of the shop, turns out the back of the shop was converted from a storeroom a few months ago & the "sparky" had added the new lights & sockets onto the flat circuits via a big nest of junction boxes in the ceiling void.
Have told the landlord how dangerous it is & given him the numbers of 2 good contractors, told the Tennant she needs to ask for a refund on her electric too.

Traced the flat supply too: Comes off a separate meter in the shop then via about 10m of tails to first RCD in the flat, from there to a Sentry split load CU on the opposite wall.
Gets interesting in there, tails to main switch then out into RCD all MCB's are then on RCD side. What a lash up.
 
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Wish I could have mate, bit difficult with the Landlord watching me like a hawk downstairs & the Tennant upstairs.
Felt like a bloody convict all the time I was there.

Anybody know if they make a head torch with a built in camera ?.
 
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Are we working on the same job???
Very similar issue. Landlord speaks little English,,but tells me is electrician friend did some work a few months ago and since then the flat above has have lots of tripping.
So went back into the take away to look at this "electricians" work and found this
[ElectriciansForums.net] Just when you think there's no more surprises. we could run a competition...see how many issues you can spot.
 
Lol. After yesterday's issues with a neon HT lead touching a ceiling grid I dropped everything before I looked inside the ceiling.
Did you spot.
No enclosure.
No earth sleving.
Bare copper wire used as links
L & N mixed
Masking tape used.
8 wires crammed in one hole.
Mixture of 2.5 & 1.5 on the same lighting circuit.
 
What I found when I had a look at what had been done in a customers house by a so called electrician just the day before ! No earth sleeve on anything strip connectors behind the boxes taped up to extend the wires ! I marched straight to their office took their boss down and told him to get it sorted properly ! Will be going back this week to check the outcome but this is a company employed by our government to do improvements in old people's houses people that don't know any better I now have a list of 8 of their jobs to check because of my one customer ! I only went to refit her heater lol.

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Lol. After yesterday's issues with a neon HT lead touching a ceiling grid I dropped everything before I looked inside the ceiling.
Did you spot.
No enclosure.
No earth sleving.
Bare copper wire used as links
L & N mixed
Masking tape used.
8 wires crammed in one hole.
Mixture of 2.5 & 1.5 on the same lighting circuit.

Missed the mixture of 2.5 & 1.5 on the lighting circuit :oops:
Issues with a Neon HT lead touching ceiling grid ? Now that's one I haven't come across Yet.
 
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What I found when I had a look at what had been done in a customers house by a so called electrician just the day before ! No earth sleeve on anything strip connectors behind the boxes taped up to extend the wires ! I marched straight to their office took their boss down and told him to get it sorted properly ! Will be going back this week to check the outcome but this is a company employed by our government to do improvements in old people's houses people that don't know any better I now have a list of 8 of their jobs to check because of my one customer ! I only went to refit her heater lol.

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Bunch of bloody butchers if you ask me.
 
Wish I could have mate, bit difficult with the Landlord watching me like a hawk downstairs & the Tennant upstairs.
Felt like a bloody convict all the time I was there.

Anybody know if they make a head torch with a built in camera ?.
We should be wearing body cameras to get the best shots for the Forum
Via a big nest of junction boxes should ALWAYs be followed by a nice picture @Specialist - you should know that by now! Good detective work.

This will be the new "must - have" accessory

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