want to apply for a esc card

Apc · Jul 18, 2017

hi
Very new to the forum and sorry for stupid question but need help.
I did my city & guilds to level 3 2365-03 at my local college and was lucky straight after the course I got a job for a domestic electrical company for past two years as an electrical installer. I plan to leave and went to apply for a ecs card but was a bit shocked to find I cannot get an installer gold card as my level 3 c & g 2365 is not enough and it has to be an nvq level 3 which I never seem to be advised of. I found nvq level 3 available but seems to be the whole complete course which doesn't take into account what I have done so far.
My question is, is there an add on to my c & g 2365.3 so I am eligible to the nvq level 3 and enable me to get a Ecs electrical installer gold card and if so where is best place to go

davesparks · Jul 18, 2017

As far as I know there is no add-on to that course which replaces the NVQ.

The JIB set the requirement that you must be fully qualified and have a number of years experience to be graded as an electrician.
I think is still an option where it's possible that by proving your experience and with the support of an employer you can be given the grade without the NVQ.

RWJ · Jul 18, 2017

If the latest new from the NICEIC is to be believed then if you are a NICEIC / Elecsa QS (it implied it also covers DI) then you are automatically entitled to a gold card, just need to do the H&S test.

Joshua · Jul 18, 2017

Does your company need you to have a gold card? You could always get a white ECS Card.

if you need a Gold Card then you'll need your 2365, an NVQ Level 3, an AM2 and possibly a 17th Edition qualification.
You can get your NVQ done with XS Training but book the Am2 by yourself since you can get it cheaper.

westward10 · Jul 18, 2017

There are alternative routes as suggested in #2 if you can get your employer along with a colleague who already holds a JIB card preferably at Technician level to vouch your experience, competence etc. I have done this twice for people and they have been successful but you will not be able to escape the 17th Ed qualification.

Gavin John Hyde · Jul 18, 2017

RWJ said:
If the latest new from the NICEIC is to be believed then if you are a NICEIC / Elecsa QS (it implied it also covers DI) then you are automatically entitled to a gold card, just need to do the H&S test.

Supporting contractors in the building services sector | NICEIC - https://www.niceic.com/goldcard

https://www.elecsa.co.uk/Documents/ECS-GOLD-CARD---Technical-Criteria.aspx

it does seem now that if you have been a QS with the same firm for 3 consecutive assessments that you can get a gold card from jib.. worth knowing.

Essentially you need 3 clean assessments as a qs or meet the criteria in the second link i posted above.

Risteard · Jul 18, 2017

Gavin John Hyde said:
it does seem now that if you have been a QS with the same firm for 3 consecutive assessments that you can get a gold card from jib.. worth knowing.

I'm pretty sure that it is explicitly stated that it will NOT bear the name/logo of the JIB on an ECS card issued in this fashion.

RWJ · Jul 18, 2017

Risteard said:
I'm pretty sure that it is explicitly stated that it will NOT bear the name/logo of the JIB on an ECS card issued in this fashion.

I would hope it wouldn't, but would your average non experienced spark be able to tell the difference?

Risteard · Jul 18, 2017

RWJ said:
I would hope it wouldn't, but would your average non experienced spark be able to tell the difference?

I agree many may be unaware of this but presumably those familiar with the JIB might be aware of it.

Joshua · Jul 18, 2017

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