I think this is a fail ...................

Octopus · Aug 16, 2017

Got asked to look at some imported kit today:

[ElectriciansForums.net] I think this is a fail ...................

Wilko · Aug 16, 2017

Has it got one of those linear fuses perhaps? That's where the whole lead is the fuse and it melts when 13A is exceeded. Correction, I see it's a 10A fuse

westward10 · Aug 16, 2017

Seen loads of them was it on cctv equipment by any chance, that definitely is not fused. Occasionally you see a sleeved earth pin.

Octopus · Aug 16, 2017

^^ I cut the plug in half to make 100% sure - in fairness to the client he wasn't happy and the kit is to be supplied into 3rd party retail outlets - so not an ideal position............... the cables they have will be going in the bin!

westward10 · Aug 16, 2017

You very often find the cables are not the size printed on them, I had two a few months back stated as 3 x 0.75 but the earth bond, even though there was continuity was off scale. Cut the moulded plug off and bared the ends back to find about three strands of copper.

mache · Aug 16, 2017

To be honest with cables like that I would question the build quality of the whole of the kit and suspect any supposed CE marking or other supposed approval markings it might carry. I would consider putting the lot in the bin not just the cables or pass to trading standards and report the equipment importer.

Specialist · Aug 17, 2017

mache said:
To be honest with cables like that I would question the build quality of the whole of the kit and suspect any supposed CE marking or other supposed approval markings it might carry. I would consider putting the lot in the bin not just the cables or pass to trading standards and report the equipment importer.

Was just thinking the exact same thing. After seeing that, I wouldn't be trusting any of it & certainly wouldn't connect it to the mains.

Octopus · Aug 17, 2017

Good feedback .......... so the transformer, and separate cable both have CE marks ......... how can this be checked?

(I always think of CE as meaning Chinese Excrement!)

RWJ · Aug 17, 2017

Murdoch said:
Good feedback .......... so the transformer, and separate cable both have CE marks ......... how can this be checked?

(I always think of CE as meaning Chinese Excrement!)

You're right it probably isn't the CE European approval mark but the (so called) CE "China export" mark

mache · Aug 17, 2017

RWJ said:
You're right it probably isn't the CE European approval mark but the (so called) CE "China export" mark
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Oh dear, can we just put this to bed. There is no China Export mark.
There is only one CE (Conformité Européenne) mark. This mark should only be applied where basically the manufacturer has tested and declared that the product meets the requirements of the market and services into which it is being supplied.

The unfortunate truth is that counterfeiters and black market producers apply the mark with no testing ever being carried out and no recourse back to the manufacturer.

Marvo · Aug 17, 2017

If it was in my country not having a fuse would be allowed but reducing the CSA of the earth pin by sleeving would be illegal.

static zap · Aug 29, 2017

Be wary some sleeved earth pins plugs have fake Copper covered alloy wire !
(hence poor Ohms / current ability - but look reasonable to the eye )

I think this is a fail ...................

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