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Yes, very common. Not permitted now as all conductors must be within the enclosure.
Sadly, yes it was quite a common practice
So what sort of enclosure should conduit go in when it's used as a CPC?
Must admit that is a poor job in the photo. Green sleeving was available back then. And a terminal block. Would like to see inside that JB, 8 t&e's I think it would only need a sprinkle of parmisano to finish it off nicely.
Would hazard a guess that the joint box shown in the picture, is in my opinion far to small for the amount of cables that seem to be entering it 8 if my maths is up to scratch, should have used a plastic adaptable box, and as Wagos were to futuristic for the 70s a strip of connectors would do the trick nicely, cpcs as well.
cpc's should be wound on top of the JB and secured with a wire nut. then a bit of green tape to ID them. 
Once fitted conduit in a posh factory where we had to work like mad as the painters were only about 20 foot behind us covering everything in orange paint.
(Regulation colour for electric (silver for steam pipes) then, is it still? )
Was never permitted.
was a bodge then same as it would be now. to be fair to some of the sparks back then, lighting didn't usually have a cpc, so that was the obvious way to deal with a useless tangle of copper wire.
I don't think it was seen a bodge back then. Never done it myself mind. But in the 60s 70s when you were ripping out old, clamped conduit and lead cable that was used as the, then, earth and was totally exposed, then bare earth wire tightly wound must have seemed just as good or better.
Looks awful now though. Each generation of apprentice trained electricians improves on the last and so may it continue.
Looks awful now though. Each generation of apprentice trained electricians improves on the last and so may it continue.
Hmmmm not sure I agree on that one. I think the general overall quality of electricians these days appears to be a lot lower than it was in the past.
If we're talking 20 years ago (in the dark ages????), it certainly was a bodge up...and it was green and yellow sleeving.
40 years back, green sleeving......but still a bodge.
I've certainly never done it and would have boll****d any one who did.
40 years back, green sleeving......but still a bodge.
I've certainly never done it and would have boll****d any one who did.
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