Changing a light above a stairwell

MFS Electrical · Apr 25, 2018

apologies if this has been covered anywhere else but I’ve looked and can’t find anything... so a customer has asked if we could change a light in their stairwell and I have to admit I’m at a loss as to how to do it safely? The stairwell is a lot like the one in this video but I’m not sure that this platform thing is the way to go.... anyone else done any similar jobs that could help me out or have a more cost effective solution was thinking of Using our stair ladders but the new light is quite heavy and fiddly so ideally I would like to have two men up there to take the weight of it etc so that kinda rules out the stair ladders any thoughts.

MDJ · Apr 26, 2018

MFS Electrical said:
I’m at a loss as to how to do it safely?

Come on seriously? really? no idea at all? please chip in then we can chip in.

MFS Electrical · Apr 28, 2018

Des 56 said:
Was wondering whether the yank was building a house within a house,but no he wanted to work on a light
It sure was one convoluted means of getting to a light fitting

Ladder against wall,plank across banister to ladder,steps to get up on plank, yet another piddling little job bites the dust

I suppose it can be done in a few days with the H+S method,sadly I never subscribed to make mountains out of molehills by fixating on that particular obsession

I know seems a lot of work to change a light

we ended up using our stair ladder on the lower stairs and an extension ladder jammed against the top step and the opposite wall but it was a bit Ropey cause the light was heavy as hell

thanks for all the advice, it’s much appreciated nice to have some people who can help you look at things from a different perspective

MDJ said:
Come on seriously? really? no idea at all? please chip in then we can chip in.

To be honest I did have some ideas but they were either to build some sort of platform or hire a stair scaffold and I didnt really want to do any of those because it would have been a massive PITA I just couldn’t see any way of being able to do it with ladders when it really needed two men to do it.

Mike Johnson · Apr 29, 2018

Block and tackle?

Rpa07 · Apr 29, 2018

It’s always nice, more, helpful when the customer is out, doing jobs like this. You know you’ll get it done but not the kind of thing you want to be watched doing!

HandySparks · Apr 29, 2018

Think I've put this up before. Little Giant ladder. I've used it a few times in various ways on stairwells. I got the customer to take the weight while I attached it to the ceiling.

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Rpa07 · Apr 29, 2018

I’ve got a 4 tread little giant and when it comes out it’s so appreciated - sturdy as anything.

HandySparks said:
Think I've put this up before. Little Giant ladder. I've used it a few times in various ways on stairwells. I got the customer to take the weight while I attached it to the ceiling.

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satori · Apr 30, 2018

Scaffold!

elsparko · May 2, 2018

use some scaffold tower, offset the legs on the stairs to give yourself a level platform

elsparko · May 2, 2018

here is a detailed drawing outlaying what you need to do, the red stuff is scaffold.

MFS Electrical · May 3, 2018

elsparko said:
here is a detailed drawing outlaying what you need to do, the red stuff is scaffold.

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Love it mate I’ll stick it in the van next to my ladders just for future reference

only thing is that light looks like it’s still on

MFS Electrical · May 3, 2018

elsparko said:
use some scaffold tower, offset the legs on the stairs to give yourself a level platform

I did think of doing something like that or hiring a stair scaffold but didn’t want the hassle of hiring it building it etc it’s all done now

elsparko · May 3, 2018

MFS Electrical said:
Love it mate I’ll stick it in the van next to my ladders just for future reference only thing is that light looks like it’s still on

yeah it had occurred to me that working live from scaffold tower may not have illustrated to the letter of the regs the correct procedure

thing is about that drawing it is remarkably close to one of my logbook entries lol

Marvo · May 3, 2018

Looks like you're playing capture the flag and just threw a granade at the opposition even though you've already won.

MFS Electrical · May 3, 2018

elsparko said:
yeah it had occurred to me that working live from scaffold tower may not have illustrated to the letter of the regs the correct procedure

thing is about that drawing it is remarkably close to one of my logbook entries lol

Did you copy mine ????? I remember sitting in the works van drawing a masterpiece just like that 5 mins before I was due to see my sectt training officer

found out that I’m pretty good under pressure that day might well have been the best drawing in the book close tie between that and a pair of yellow steps

elsparko · May 3, 2018

MFS Electrical said:
Did you copy mine ????? I remember sitting in the works van drawing a masterpiece just like that 5 mins before I was due to see my sectt training officer found out that I’m pretty good under pressure that day might well have been the best drawing in the book close tie between that and a pair of yellow steps

my guys hard hat was a top hat, his boots cowboy boots with steel toe caps of course

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