Help! Absolute novice doesn’t know what he is doing

Matthew Hunter · Aug 8, 2018

I am not an electrician but fitted a few light fittings and thought it was pretty straight forward but that is the extent of my knowledge. This one, however, wont turn off. Just moved into a new build and took previous light fitting from my other house. When i have fitted it, the light wont turn off at the switch. The previous light fitting had several terminals for the wires to go into whereas the new has only 1 for each colour. So 4 wires are currently rammed into one side and 2 into the other (see photos). I know I am doing something wrong and I know its a probably an easy fix, I just dont know what... any help is much appreciated

[ElectriciansForums.net] Help! Absolute novice doesn’t know what he is doing

westward10 · Aug 8, 2018

Either reinstate the original fitting or call an electrician. The chances of you connecting that new fitting in a safe manner even if you know which wire to connect and to where are zero. That is an accident waiting to happen.

buzzlightyear · Aug 8, 2018

switch off the lights mcb, and ring someone that knows what they are doing .cause they have the wright test gear .

telectrix · Aug 8, 2018

the wright test gear:

telectrix · Aug 8, 2018

agree with westie. that joint box in the new fitting is not suitable for the configuration of the wiring. call an electrician while you still live.

Pete999 · Aug 8, 2018

The reason your light wont turn off is because you have joined all the brown cables together, basically omitting the switch, best option call an electrician to sort it for you, a simple job, for a savvy electrician.

Rpa07 · Aug 8, 2018

I love this forum!
That terminal box - I wonder if anyone has ever used it when installing a light
Do as they say ^^^^^^^ and learn from this experience!

Matthew Hunter · Aug 8, 2018

Cheers fellas already done

Midwest · Aug 8, 2018

Matthew Hunter said:
Cheers fellas already done

Tell me you didn't use that 'joint box', please

matt1386 · Aug 8, 2018

As above, simple, easy and cheap job for somebody who knows what they are doing !

Rpa07 · Aug 8, 2018

Actually the install switch wire is a double brown which makes it very easy to sort BUT it still needs to be done professionally and safely.

buzzlightyear · Aug 8, 2018

matt1386 said:
As above, simple, easy and cheap job for somebody who knows what they are doing !

how much!

Midwest · Aug 8, 2018

Rpa07 said:
Actually the install switch wire is a double brown which makes it very easy to sort BUT it still needs to be done professionally and safely.

Don't why people bother making life difficult for themselves?

Octopus · Aug 8, 2018

I do wonder how these idiotic manufacturers expect people to cope with loop in method wiring?

ipf · Aug 8, 2018

Midwest said:
Don't why people bother making life difficult for themselves?

Yep……..2 wires to connect and it's done

buzzlightyear · Aug 8, 2018

@Jamie spell teacher .

Rpa07 · Aug 8, 2018

Murdoch said:
I do wonder how these idiotic manufacturers expect people to cope with loop in method wiring?

It's because they know electricians can think outside of the box - that's why they don't make it easy! We're the best!

Rpa07 · Aug 8, 2018

Buzz you've outdone yourself, I don't even think @Jamie knows what's going on!

buzzlightyear said:
@Jamie spell teacher .

Midwest · Aug 8, 2018

ipf said:
Yep……..2 wires to connect and it's done

Yep right, which is which.....I'll do another little test then.

ipf · Aug 8, 2018

Midwest said:
Yep right, which is which.....I'll do another little test then.

Good question for the 18th exam, is that.

a-z electrics · Aug 11, 2018

Good job switch wires were both brown.. usually untagged blue wire used :-(

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