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Hey everyone.

Recently got called to a job where I needed to change over a light fitting and other small jobs. Upon testing the circuit no earth was present, I investigated the circuit thoroughly and gave the customer a few options on what to do. The customer decided to go ahead with changing all the light switches and light fittings to class 2. Fuseboard was also upgraded and earth bonding installed.

The job is now completed, I have printed out a label and left on the fuseboard mentioning about the lighting circuit has no earth.

Should I also fill out a risk assessment and print out and leave with the EIC at the fuseboard? ‘This is the first circuit I have installed class 2 items on so am a bit unsure,normally the customer gets it re-wired but on this occasion the customer didn’t want this carried out.
Attached is one I have filled out which I hope is correct.

Thanks for any advice given.
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That risk assessment is terrible.

An RCD does not reduce the risk of electric shock, it reduces the severity of a shock.

The idea of it being acceptable to fit plastic switches and put a sticker on the CU has no real basis in the regulations. It was proposed by the esc as a last resort if correcting the problem is impossible, not as a first choice option.
 
Can you give any advice on what would be better for the risk assessment please? As mentioned I have never done a risk assessment before.

Changing the switches and fittings to class 2 was a last resort option given to the customer which they wanted as they didn’t want me to rewire the circuit.
 
Can you give any advice on what would be better for the risk assessment please? As mentioned I have never done a risk assessment before.

Changing the switches and fittings to class 2 was a last resort option given to the customer which they wanted as they didn’t want me to rewire the circuit.

I can’t think of any way to risk assess this and not conclude that you are leaving a potentially dangerous installation.

For what reason did they not want it rewired?
 
All lights and switches without a earth present were changed to class 2 and all switches DO have screw caps fitted.

The customer had recently had all the rooms decorated and didn’t want any damage to be made to walls/ceilings so changing to class 2 was the only option.
 
Just make sure the EIC you provide CLEARLY states the situation, the guidance that no metal products should be used on the circuit(s) and that you advise them to have it rewired.

Then the "buck" is passed to them.

BS7671 can't cater for the stupid ..........
 
The customer had recently had all the rooms decorated and didn’t want any damage to be made to walls/ceilings so changing to class 2 was the only option.

Houses of this vintage tend to have the switch drops in conduit. So very often you can pull in new cable with no damage to the wall. I have a house to do like this shortly.
 

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