Electrical safety certificate and downlights

Midwest · May 8, 2018

tom1972 said:
That might just be the best advice I have heard all day

Yep the next one will just charge you some more money. Ha.

Martyn Fletcher · May 8, 2018

£1300 to swap 18 downlighters?

I've been charging my lot £25 a pop.
I may have to reconsider my ethical standing methinks.

ipf · May 8, 2018

What could be an interesting point.....how much did they charge for the EICR?

Octopus · May 8, 2018

tom1972 said:
That might just be the best advice I have heard all day

Just don't let the agent organise the safety certs.....

Toneyz · May 12, 2018

I take it that the agent charges you for the electrician's services.

Flanders · May 12, 2018

Just to add the guidance for periods between an electrical inspection is 5 years or tenancy change , as for the observation on the down lights i have found in the past that some electrians think the point of a fire ratted fitting is the protect the fabric of the building be damaged by the down light , not that it is to prevent the spread of fire, as others have said those halogen lights give off a lot of heat , if they are the 230 volt lamps you could easily replace them yourself with led lamps which produce very little heat and will save you tenant a couple of quid on the lecky bill

Ramazan · Sep 8, 2018

Here is a very decent guide about IEE Electricians Guide to the Building Regulations. It was published by The Institution of Electrical Engineers, London, UK. Boook gives guidance on Electrical Safety of the building regulations 2000 and on other parts of the building regulations.

The IEE Electricians Guide to the Building Regulations - https://www.voltimum.co.uk/articles/iee-electricians-guide-building-0

Midwest · Sep 8, 2018

A blast from the past.

Taylortwocities · Sep 8, 2018

Midwest said:
A blast from the past.

Indeed, way out of date, especially as the 18th is here and the other BRs that it refers to may also have changed.

It is also a very general GUIDE, like the OSG, (not a regulation) and it has a number of items in there that are done "because that's the way its always been done" and do not have a BS7671 regulation to back them up.

pirate · Sep 8, 2018

EICR is compulsory for let properties in Scotland.
Malicious rumour had it that nicola was dating a spark.
Letting agents aren't all bad, but many of them are useless, hence the new legislation that they all have to be registered and licensed. Like that'll help?
I never use an agent, do it myself, choose my contractors, keep control of every stage. OK, if you've got multiple properties, that's a different proposition, but if only 1 or 2, it's DIY time. (NOT for the electrics, I mean for the management)

JK-Electrical · Sep 8, 2018

pirate said:
EICR is compulsory for let properties in Scotland.
Malicious rumour had it that nicola was dating a spark.
Letting agents aren't all bad, but many of them are useless, hence the new legislation that they all have to be registered and licensed. Like that'll help?
I never use an agent, do it myself, choose my contractors, keep control of every stage. OK, if you've got multiple properties, that's a different proposition, but if only 1 or 2, it's DIY time. (NOT for the electrics, I mean for the management)

This is the 'spark' who was pumping the wee circus freak....

[ElectriciansForums.net] Electrical safety certificate and downlights

Midwest · Sep 8, 2018

JK-Electrical said:
This is the 'spark' who was pumping the wee circus freak....

Took me a few minutes to compute that. You should be careful with slanderous statements, might get you in trouble

JK-Electrical · Sep 8, 2018

pirate said:
EICR is compulsory for let properties in Scotland.
Malicious rumour had it that nicola was dating a spark.
Letting agents aren't all bad, but many of them are useless, hence the new legislation that they all have to be registered and licensed. Like that'll help?
I never use an agent, do it myself, choose my contractors, keep control of every stage. OK, if you've got multiple properties, that's a different proposition, but if only 1 or 2, it's DIY time. (NOT for the electrics, I mean for the management)

Midwest said:
Took me a few minutes to compute that. You should be careful with slanderous statements, might get you in trouble

You're right Midwest. I apologise unreservedly to Mr. Blind for saying that he had sex with that grotesque minger as the consequence of grossly impaired vision.

dksanders · Sep 8, 2018

tom1972 said:
No gas is required but electrical is optional

As a landlord you are required to ensure that the electrical installation is safe and suitable for use before each letting.

The Landlords and Tenancy Act 1985 requires that the electrical installation in a rented property is safe when the tenancy begins, and maintained in a safe condition throughout the tenancy.

The Housing Act 2004 requires that all hazards are assessed so electrically this means electrical hazards for fixed wiring and portable electrical equipment, including automatic fire detection etc.

The Electrical Equipment (Safety) Regulations 1994 require that if you provide any electrical equipment, boilers, cookers, fires, fridges etc that they are safe when first provided and remain safe.

The only way a landlord can do that is by having an EICR carried out with a Satisfactory result and if applicable PA Testing so I'd not describe an EICR as optional.

It really annoys me when property management companies, estate agents etc charge landlords management fees yet advise the landlord that they don't need to have electrical testing done when as seen from above the opposite is the case.

If a tennant was injured or killed the courts would hold the landlord responsible if they couldn't prove that they had complied with the above acts; the only way to prove they had is by having regular EICRs and PA Testing carried out.

JK-Electrical · Sep 8, 2018

dksanders said:
As a landlord you are required to ensure that the electrical installation is safe and suitable for use before each letting.

The Landlords and Tenancy Act 1985 requires that the electrical installation in a rented property is safe when the tenancy begins, and maintained in a safe condition throughout the tenancy.

The Housing Act 2004 requires that all hazards are assessed so electrically this means electrical hazards for fixed wiring and portable electrical equipment, including automatic fire detection etc.

The Electrical Equipment (Safety) Regulations 1994 require that if you provide any electrical equipment, boilers, cookers, fires, fridges etc that they are safe when first provided and remain safe.

The only way a landlord can do that is by having an EICR carried out with a Satisfactory result and if applicable PA Testing so I'd not describe an EICR as optional.

It really annoys me when property management companies, estate agents etc charge landlords management fees yet advise the landlord that they don't need to have electrical testing done when as seen from above the opposite is the case.

If a tennant was injured or killed the courts would hold the landlord responsible if they couldn't prove that they had complied with the above acts; the only way to prove they had is by having regular EICRs and PA Testing carried out.

You've hit the nail on the head there, dksanders.

SELECT is currently lobbying the Scottish Government for legislation that would compel landlords to submit written evidence that they have had electrical inspection and testing undertaken on properties that they let, and to also prove that fire, smoke and carbon monoxide alarms are fitted and operational.

https://www.select.org.uk/scottish-government-consult-landlord-registration

Landlords should also be required to submit proof that whoever they hired to carry-out the EICR was suitably qualified and competent to do so.

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Ramazan

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JK-Electrical

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Midwest

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JK-Electrical

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dksanders

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JK-Electrical

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