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Certsure, ECA and Electrical Safety First (ESF) have worked together to develop plans to raise standards across the industry. The trio are the driving force behind proposals to change the ways competence within the industry is measured. While the electrotechnical industry prides itself on a robust approach to competence and safety, and indeed

has an excellent safety record, there is always more that can be done. Driving up standards of electrotechnical work is a fundamental objective if the sector is to thrive in the years ahead.

As leading bodies in the industry, Certsure, ECA and ESF have worked together to develop a blueprint which we believe will ensure that only qualified individuals with the right knowledge, skills and understanding are deemed competent to undertake electrotechnical work. This approach will help to drive up standards, works for industry, and aligns with Government policy on technical education standards and competence.

We have put forward proposals to simplify yet strengthen entry requirements into the industry, and ensure consistency across all registration and certification bodies. This aligns with our thinking that all applicants to a scheme should be from one of two routes: the apprenticeship route, or the experienced worker route.

The proposals will ensure that individuals seeking to become a qualified supervisor or electrical operative undertaking periodic inspection must have the following:

• an electrotechnical apprenticeship (or proscribed alternative)

• a minimum of two years’ experience

• a recognised knowledge of the latest Wiring Regulations

• be well versed in inspection and testing electrotechnical installations

The proposal is fairly straightforward to implement for new applications. However, there remains a challenge for existing registrants. Our proposal is that there must be proportionate quality management systems, for new and existing registrants, in place for demonstrating business process and operative competence. This would need to be assessed in situ as part of the ongoing assessment process by registration and certification body assessors.

We believe that this proposal is the best way to properly ensure the competence of the registered organisation, qualified supervisors, and operatives undertaking electrotechnical work and provide the consumer protections that are required.

ANY THOUGHTS ON THIS Electrical Trainee WOULD END
 
I don't actually see that these so called 'proposals' are going to change anything?

• an electrotechnical apprenticeship (or proscribed alternative)
• a minimum of two years’ experience
• a recognised knowledge of the latest Wiring Regulations
• be well versed in inspection and testing electrotechnical installations

The only thing that might appear radical is the first bullet point. However, what is a 'proscribed alternative'. And whilst we on the subject of Electrical Trainee; I've worked with some of those who have funded their own training (and there's some on this forum), who I'd suggest are more competent than some of the rough as a badger arse apprentice trained 'electricians' I have the misfortune to work with, who quite frankly should not be left lose with a pair of side cutters. So lets drop this snobbish, I'm better than thou attitude. :)

Lastly @MG201, its good practise to cite an article or piece your are posting about.
 
the above is an article I found relating to the issue as previously said to me it reads of the 3 bodies mentioned in said article battling for government ear to push their own agenda over the others, I may be wrong but that’s way I read it
Where did you see this article.
 
News | My Local Electrician - https://www.mylocalelectrician.uk/news

There is the link

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in fairness, if this is only to do with the issuance of EICRs I dont see a problem with it (in theory). if the government is going to insist on landlords having an eicr done on a regular basis they should also be making sure they are done competently and thoroughly. it can only be a good thing if it does away with the drive-by eicr brigade (although that is probably wishful thinking)
 

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