Fixing cables before dot and dab

Longers · Mar 29, 2019

Hi guys,

Doing a kitchen refurb and adding and extending some sockets and extending the cooker circuit. Builder is going to dot and dab the walls next week just getting people’s opinions on the best method for fixing cables. Clipped direct to the wall or in oval tube or capped?
Also 25mm or 35mm boxes for the sockets and spurs?

Cheers

Rpa07 · Mar 29, 2019

buzzlightyear said:
I wonder what dip dap says .LOL .

Is that what it’s like to be in your head Buzz - complete with sound effects!?!

Rpa07 · Mar 29, 2019

jackhammerJIM said:
If a plasterer has 35mm boxes to get over he will use a thicker bed of adhesive .

Or he’ll unscrew your boxes for you to chisel in deeper after he’s finished his boarding and plastering!
It happened!

Longers · Mar 29, 2019

Think I’ll run the cables in and get the customer to call the plasterer tomorrow and see what he says.
For extending the cooker circuit I was going to mount a wago junction box with 733 6mm connectors fixed up to the ceiling joists. That way when the ceiling is boarded it won’t matter as it will be a mf connection. Or has anyone got a better method?

Thanks

Longers · Mar 29, 2019

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Longers · Mar 29, 2019

The cable will be run to the far corner in the photo through the joists.

Top Cat · Mar 29, 2019

jackhammerJIM said:
If a plasterer has 35mm boxes to get over he will use a thicker bed of adhesive .

No, he won't, he will leave 10mm of box proud of the wall and blame you!

123 · Mar 30, 2019

Top Cat said:
No, he won't, he will leave 10mm of box proud of the wall and blame you!

And he'll also no doubt have filled the box full of plaster as well. And the 25mm box that was put in you won't be able to find as he'll have covered it over

Longers · Mar 30, 2019

Thanks for all the replies. Have checked the customers fittings they have bought from wickes

fittings specify minimum 35mm depth of box so that’s that sorted. Have traced all the socket and light cables so no need to extend any which is better. Just the cooker cable to joint now.

telectrix · Mar 30, 2019

solder or yellow crimps and heat shrink for extending cooker cable.

FatAlan · Mar 30, 2019

Definitely 35mm boxes as they bound to want sockets with USB chargebpoints.

Midwest · Mar 30, 2019

Or use Wagos for the 6mm cooker.

mattg4321 · Mar 30, 2019

I always try to fit 35mm boxes as standard - unless its a rewire where I know I'll be keeping costs down as much as possible as customer has requested and the walls are fecking hard!

cliffed · Mar 30, 2019

I had loads of hassles with the spreads on lots of jobs,
boxes far too back,cause their boarding was not uniform,boxes sticking out,rough cuts around the boxes.
Became a nightmare,especially with these new slim profile sockets,the ones that actually have 2 parts to them,& the actual front pushes satin chrome finish.
They come in herds now,& don’t care too much about anything .

jackhammerJIM · Mar 30, 2019

Top Cat said:
No, he won't, he will leave 10mm of box proud of the wall and blame you!

I must be lucky

telectrix · Mar 30, 2019

and make sure you leave 5 cables in switch box 2 ft. longer than required, sharpie marked at ends, so boarders/spreads can cut then short and chuck the identified bits in the skip.

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