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What type of maintenance free push in connectors does everyone buy. I go through these like im eating them, use them for everything and love them.
I will never use anpther brand apart from Wago on the slimline lever reuseable connectors which are rated at 32A and perfect in every way.

However on the push in single use ones does everyone use wago? Ive been looking at the Ideal ones which are rated at 32A as opposed to the 24A the wagos are rated at. Ive been using the new slimline Wagos recently but there 30 percent more expensive than the Ideals. I believe the manufacturer SWA also do a similar product, anyone have any experiance with them?

Looking to buy ma few hubdred of each of the 2 pole, 3 pole and 4 poles connectors but thought id get some other opinions before buying a years worth.
 
I love wagos. The only 'frustrating' thing is that the 221 (slim, see through/orange lever) which look lovely, don't appear to be permitted to be classed as 'maintenance free' in conjunction with a Wagobox - whereas 222 (grey with orange lever) are. Regardless, still love them!

Ideal Spliceline are quite cool - as it sits dead 'in line' with the cable, whereas Wagos/Ideal levers require a bit of a bend. Not used them much though.
 
Ideal and Wago's are both rated at 32A when not used in maintenance free mode. For maintenance free installation you have to down rate them both (to 24A)

And these connectors are only ever maintenance free when installed in compliance with the maintenance free instructions supplied with the connector boxes (Wagobox, Wagobox XL and Wagobox XLA for Wagos and the In-Sure box for the Ideal connectors). Using them in any other way means they are not installed in MF mode and must be accessible for inspection.

My personal preference is Wagos because of the availability of the various Wagoboxes.
I 'think', the wagobox has to be secured with a zip tie in the given slot as well to be classed as MF. It's been a while since I rang them and had a chat though, so may be wrong.
 
I love the quickwire range of JB/connectors. Doing a switch and loop takes literally one minute no earth sleeving and maintenance free as well as small enough to poke up into a 1.5 inch hole in the ceiling to fit those there new fangeld lights where you have to take off the ceiling rose.
 
This is how you fangeld a bit of cable ...

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I remember when the first push fit wagos came out about the early 2000s

In UK wholesalers maybe. They were available from the likes of RS before that, and going further back I used to throw a few boxes in my suitcase when returning from Europe. I think they were invented in the 1950s but as usual in the UK we're a bit slow to adopt new materials.

I'm not into Wagoboxes though, I don't like the design, but it matters not, as they aren't needed for conduit work and I don't give a flying spoon about MF. They aren't used on the continent either.
 
Anyone seen these? I have been using them for 45 years and never had a problem!:)View attachment 48741
Fair enough TC..but these days sparks can't be trusted to install them correctly(I presume)
Then again, 'heating engineers' are a completely different animal.
Get this from last year, at a mates house. Installing a new boiler, breaking into a ring final circuit and doing it under the floor boards directly below the CU. (2 spare ways)

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I'd say 90% of traditional JBs I have ever come across have not been fitted correctly, not fixed and with no strain relief for terminations. Found heaps of faults within JBs due to poor installation and/or the nature of the terminals.
I don't think standards have always been as impeccable as some like to think.
 
This is a nice box for the older Wagos

https://www.NoLinkingToThis/p/wagob...VmKztCh0VZgmtEAAYASAAEgIRSvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

Cheap, really.

Also, just ordered one of these with the newer Wagos pre-installed

Wago L32 Wiring Centre - https://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/WAL32.html

Seems good value...not a Wago product, I think...just an aftermarket product with Wagos fitted...but I can see a few uses for these, not just boiler installations.
 
I love the quickwire range of JB/connectors. Doing a switch and loop takes literally one minute no earth sleeving and maintenance free as well as small enough to poke up into a 1.5 inch hole in the ceiling to fit those there new fangeld lights where you have to take off the ceiling rose.
I hadn't seen 'Quickwire' before ....great concept but very expensive.
 
By 'strip connector' do you mean 'choc-block'? If so, in order, for me:

1. Less risk of loose connections developing over time, particularly where vibration is involved. It doesn't matter how much vibration a Wago suffers, it maintains a constant pressure at the termination.
2. Ease of installation - No messing about with a screwdriver, at an awkward angle.
3. Speed.
4. Much, much easier to reconfigure if changes are needed.
5. Neatness.

I'll never again use a choc-block. I hate them. And I always have, since the first time I used them, decades ago.

I needed to extend a cable yesterday, that had been cut too short, and was up between roof joists. I could see it, and reach it, but doing the job with any screw based solution would have been beyond challenging - I could get one hand up there, but not two. With three 2 port Wagos, and one of their lighting boxes, it was a piece of cake.

I'm genuinely curious - Why do you prefer choc-block?

Cheers.
 

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