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What type of maintenance free push in connectors does everyone buy. I go through these like im eating them, use them for everything and love them.
I will never use anpther brand apart from Wago on the slimline lever reuseable connectors which are rated at 32A and perfect in every way.

However on the push in single use ones does everyone use wago? Ive been looking at the Ideal ones which are rated at 32A as opposed to the 24A the wagos are rated at. Ive been using the new slimline Wagos recently but there 30 percent more expensive than the Ideals. I believe the manufacturer SWA also do a similar product, anyone have any experiance with them?

Looking to buy ma few hubdred of each of the 2 pole, 3 pole and 4 poles connectors but thought id get some other opinions before buying a years worth.
 
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Also, just ordered one of these with the newer Wagos pre-installed

Wago L32 Wiring Centre - https://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/WAL32.html

Seems good value...not a Wago product, I think...just an aftermarket product with Wagos fitted...but I can see a few uses for these, not just boiler installations.
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The L32 is absolutely superb - I use them lots. Makes wiring a heating system literally a 5 minute job once the cables are in. Only niggle is that there aren't enough earth points. Can be sorted with one more Wago in there, but it is irritating.
 
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Engineer1 said:
By 'strip connector' do you mean 'choc-block'? If so, in order, for me:

1. Less risk of loose connections developing over time, particularly where vibration is involved. It doesn't matter how much vibration a Wago suffers, it maintains a constant pressure at the termination.
2. Ease of installation - No messing about with a screwdriver, at an awkward angle.
3. Speed.
4. Much, much easier to reconfigure if changes are needed.
5. Neatness.

I'll never again use a choc-block. I hate them. And I always have, since the first time I used them, decades ago.

I needed to extend a cable yesterday, that had been cut too short, and was up between roof joists. I could see it, and reach it, but doing the job with any screw based solution would have been beyond challenging - I could get one hand up there, but not two. With three 2 port Wagos, and one of their lighting boxes, it was a piece of cake.

I'm genuinely curious - Why do you prefer choc-block?

Cheers.
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Who'd a thunk it, a rational viewpoint. I think most of those that decry Wagos in favour of screw terminal connector strip just do it because that's what they were brought up with and anything else is witchcraft.
I remember showing my dad Wagos when I first started using them. He asked a lot of questions about application, voltage and current ratings, availability etc and had a few goes with various types of scrap bits of cable from his garage. His verdict as a retired Jurassic sparks ? "Well where were these all my working life ?"
 
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Thank you for your thoughts, i tried wagos just few times.I liked the feel of them but wasn't practical for me.Maybe i will give them another go, for so many ppl to insist must be something there.

Some thoughts i had about wagos since last time i used them:

1.I found them cumbersome to fit them in 35mm boxes or tight places especially if there more than 2-3 cables to connect.
2.About the speed i didnt see any noticeable difference.
3.Also one more advantage is the cost which i dont mind to pay few cents more if it gives me a reasonable advantage.
4.One more disadvantage is that you have to always keep an eye to have the whole series of 2,3,4,5 etc ports and the same amperage wise.



Engineer1 said:
By 'strip connector' do you mean 'choc-block'? If so, in order, for me:

1. Less risk of loose connections developing over time, particularly where vibration is involved. It doesn't matter how much vibration a Wago suffers, it maintains a constant pressure at the termination.
2. Ease of installation - No messing about with a screwdriver, at an awkward angle.
3. Speed.
4. Much, much easier to reconfigure if changes are needed.
5. Neatness.

I'll never again use a choc-block. I hate them. And I always have, since the first time I used them, decades ago.

I needed to extend a cable yesterday, that had been cut too short, and was up between roof joists. I could see it, and reach it, but doing the job with any screw based solution would have been beyond challenging - I could get one hand up there, but not two. With three 2 port Wagos, and one of their lighting boxes, it was a piece of cake.

I'm genuinely curious - Why do you prefer choc-block?

Cheers.
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Michaelp said:
Some thoughts i had about wagos since last time i used them:

1.I found them cumbersome to fit them in 35mm boxes or tight places especially if there more than 2-3 cables to connect.
2.About the speed i didnt see any noticeable difference.
3.Also one more advantage is the cost which i dont mind to pay few cents more if it gives me a reasonable advantage.
4.One more disadvantage is that you have to always keep an eye to have the whole series of 2,3,4,5 etc ports and the same amperage wise.
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I can't understand your argument.
Installed Friday, for a friend. In an awkward position...replacing rose with light fitting. Box above with 5 cables. An absolute doddle compared to screw connectors, with plenty box space.
Plus the fact it would have meant 4 neutrals and 5 earths in the connectors.

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Yep - Chocblocks connect, at best, two wires. I know you can bodge, er, I mean 'carefully terminate', more than one wire into each hole, but, that's not my style. In a CH wiring centre, it needs loads of little neutral, and earth, links, which make things really horrible, practically, and visually. Wagos do up to 8 way in the push fit range. Hugely helpful.

I have a small personal project coming up soon, and I really want to use these, but I can't find a supplier of a small quantity here in the UK. Any suggestions?..

WAGO | Busbar terminal block (812-104) - https://www.wago.com/us/rail-chassis-terminal-blocks/busbar-terminal-block/p/812-104

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ipf said:
I can't understand your argument.
Installed Friday, for a friend. In an awkward position...replacing rose with light fitting. Box above with 5 cables. An absolute doddle compared to screw connectors, with plenty box space.
Plus the fact it would have meant 4 neutrals and 5 earths in the connectors.

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Will give them another try.Maybe i was too fast for conclusions so this time i will use them for a longer time on different situations.
 
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Talking of twisting,does anyone ever use those Ideal 'twister' things, like a modern version of the old porcelain 'scruits' often found in old square lighting JBs. I have some which came free with a multibox of various Ideal push fits but have never used them, not confident in them really.
 
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Dave OCD said:
Talking of twisting,does anyone ever use those Ideal 'twister' things, like a modern version of the old porcelain 'scruits' often found in old square lighting JBs. I have some which came free with a multibox of various Ideal push fits but have never used them, not confident in them really.
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Bin 'em. They were for VIR stranded and definitely not up to standard. Just like twisting cables together.
Chubby Checker liked 'em, in summer, though;)
 
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Andy78 said:
That's a bit special. Surely not electricians ?
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I have had better,
once I left an earth communing block with about 10 ways behind at a friends house after doing some work for him.
about a month later he called me back to say that he had fitted a new light and now all his electrics blew when he turned it on.
he had used it like a connector block assuming it was 5 separate ways when he replaced the light fitting.
bang was his description of the fault.
 
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