Advice on a product - Kitchen lighting

Beefy · Aug 20, 2019

Hi guys,

I'm currently replacing the lighting in my kitchen. There really old.

Basically the existing lights are recessed E27 bulb holders so i've throw some modern LED bulbs (8.5w) into them. The problem i've got is the cut out is large (130mm) and none of the modern LED's seem to fit without cover plates which all seem to cost more than the light itself!

I've bought a few bits from these guys, mainly sockets and switches and they have a new product at a good price point for me.

2in1 LED 16 Watt Round Pure & Warm White Recessed Ceiling DownLight

Stunning and Ultraslim I LumoS 2in1 LED 16 Watt Round Pure & Warm White Recessed Ceiling Down Light to brighten up your home or office

hartingtonheath.com

Anyone have any experience? I'm expecting not and suggestions to mainstream brands but they would do the job, my lights are a bit badly placed to be optimal in the kitchen so the increase luminescence and angle would really help light up my kitchen. Last time i bought downlights i bought 4 of the Hybrid7's which i believe some may like some will hate. But for me at £7.99 with a consumer replaceable bulb and quick release cabling are ideal. However the new sparky i'm planning on using to fit the kitchen lights hate JCC and has advised against.

Any thoughts on the part in the link? Would i need some sort of connector box to go with it? Most i'd seen previously came with them fitted to cable into existing wiring easily...

telectrix · Aug 20, 2019

look OK to me although i've not used them personally. you'll need something like these to connect the cables. they's called clickflow connectors:

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Barry123 · Aug 20, 2019

never heard of them. think enlite do some larger diameter downlights.

GBDamo · Aug 20, 2019

I'd suggest taking an old fitting to a wholesalers and asking them.

I've found LED lighting is very hit and miss even amongst reputable brands, most the comoonents come out of the same factories in China.

I'd feel more confident if i could just take a failed unit back and swap it, an easy enough job to do yourself if the sparky uses he connectors suggested above.

Dan · Aug 20, 2019

Beefy said:
Hi guys,

I'm currently replacing the lighting in my kitchen. There really old.

Basically the existing lights are recessed E27 bulb holders so i've throw some modern LED bulbs (8.5w) into them. The problem i've got is the cut out is large (130mm) and none of the modern LED's seem to fit without cover plates which all seem to cost more than the light itself!

I've bought a few bits from these guys, mainly sockets and switches and they have a new product at a good price point for me.

2in1 LED 16 Watt Round Pure & Warm White Recessed Ceiling DownLight

Stunning and Ultraslim I LumoS 2in1 LED 16 Watt Round Pure & Warm White Recessed Ceiling Down Light to brighten up your home or office

hartingtonheath.com

Anyone have any experience? I'm expecting not and suggestions to mainstream brands but they would do the job, my lights are a bit badly placed to be optimal in the kitchen so the increase luminescence and angle would really help light up my kitchen. Last time i bought downlights i bought 4 of the Hybrid7's which i believe some may like some will hate. But for me at £7.99 with a consumer replaceable bulb and quick release cabling are ideal. However the new sparky i'm planning on using to fit the kitchen lights hate JCC and has advised against.

Any thoughts on the part in the link? Would i need some sort of connector box to go with it? Most i'd seen previously came with them fitted to cable into existing wiring easily...

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MJPD29 · Aug 20, 2019

GBDamo said:
I'd suggest taking an old fitting to a wholesalers and asking them.

I've found LED lighting is very hit and miss even amongst reputable brands, most the comoonents come out of the same factories in China.

I'd feel more confident if i could just take a failed unit back and swap it, an easy enough job to do yourself if the sparky uses he connectors suggested above.

I agree, we are suffering failures sometimes in bulk even among the most reputable or expensive brands.

GBDamo · Aug 21, 2019

Matthewd29 said:
I agree, we are suffering failures sometimes in bulk even among the most reputable or expensive brands.

The problem is they're pitching at a price point set by the cheapest no name imports.

I had to change 400 600x600 panels as some(10%) had started to discolour and some had dark spots. These were supplied by a reputable wholesaler who ponied up for the replacement and fitting. The replacements, a better quality, there words, are now 6 months later starting to get driver failures, 3 in the last month.

If these were self sourced the cost to us would have been huge, as is we are still earning.

Wholesalers have a purpose.

Snailspark · Aug 21, 2019

I would plug in the old holes and relocate the lighting to where you want it, presuming you have the space above the ceiling void and enough cable slack?
You could then get whatever recessed lights you want in any size and drill new holes to fit.
You could even add more to get your lighting right... and it would not cost too much..