UK DIY. Can anyone help me understand why this complex arrangements of wires are connected this way from these two seperate meters

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• Oct 24, 2019

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The exposed connections outside of the DB are potentially dangerous, the cover off the DB is dangerous, the means of earthing is not apparent but it may be what is known as a TT system. There seems to be two separate supplies, is this two properties/flats with a common intake in a basement or something? There appears to be RCD protection. It looks a mess, an Electrical Installation Condition Report would seem a very good idea.

 

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• Oct 24, 2019

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definitely dangerous. i'd get an electrician in urgently. can't see any sign of an earth connection for starters.

 

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it's a flaming mess ! and far from best practice
But nothing sticks out as being imeadiately "dangerous"

 

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Manus Blessing said:

Is this dangerous ? Thank you for any advice given

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Deffo needs sorting out a bit of a mess

 

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Think you know the answer OP. Do you have two supplies there?

 

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Hard to tell if it is dangerous maybe just needs a good tidy up

 

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Thank You so much for your insights. Yes, there are two separate supplies Innthis mains box but one is supposed to be vacated. One is for the home it sits in, the other for the Farm on which this cottage sits supposedly...but the newer meter on the left never shows any change at all.

 

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• Oct 24, 2019

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As mentioned so far its a real mess, to determine whether or not its dangerous requires an inspection. From the pictures it looks to be "potentially" dangerous. But please take the advise offered and get a qualified electrician in to inspect it properly.

Better to be safe than sorry!

 

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dmxtothemax said:

it's a flaming mess ! and far from best practice
But nothing sticks out as being imeadiately "dangerous"

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the larger CU doesn't have a cover on it, this is immediately dangerous as there are exposed live parts.

 

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• Oct 24, 2019

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Does look like it would benefit from some testing and a tidy-up.

At least we know where all the choccy blocks go,during spawning...

 

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the larger CU doesn't have a cover on it, this is immediately dangerous as there are exposed live parts.

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I'd assumed (rightly or wrongly) the cover had been removed temporally so that a picture of the inside could be taken. If not, then yes good call!

 

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Midwest said:

Think you know the answer OP. Do you have two supplies there?

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I have no idea of the answer which is why l asked Sir. There are two supplies, one for the cottage where the Mains Box sits, the other for the Farm on which the cottage sits, but the Electricity Supplier told me one supply had been vacated, the account cancelled, and that meter on the left never registers any usage, despite the fact the Farm does use electricity daily nonetheless. Until some replies here, I simply had no clue if this set up is dangerous or legal even. Thanks so much for taking a look.

 

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• Oct 24, 2019

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Looks like someone stole your consumer unit lid

you might want to get that looked at before someone gets an unwelcome belt

 

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• Oct 24, 2019

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Hi - as per many others, I too think it’s a dangerous mess. If the bus bar cover falls off (the one that kindly reminds “switch off before removing”) it’s very very dangerous for you. I note an earth wire floating too, and this may've moved the danger further out into the installation.

 

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