EV charging in a dwelling

VWWM 1 · Mar 30, 2021

Hi
A client wants a EV type 2 charger but she lives in a end of terrace. There is a pathway in front of her house and a front garden but no driveway yet. Can she have one installed?
No Olev grant but I thought you couldn’t if they didn’t have a car driveway to stop a possible trailing lead.
thanks

Gavin John Hyde · Mar 31, 2021

Soi disant said:
And yet I'm sure I read recently that at least one DNO is now installing 125A cutouts as standard for new connections to allow for EV charging.....

Wpd are now fitting 3 phase cutouts as standard on new installs

Mike Johnson · Mar 31, 2021

Lister1987 said:
Already being done on Japan with levels of success.

Can we see some evidence of that?

snowhead · Mar 31, 2021

Mike Johnson said:
Can we see some evidence of that?

This is in China;

Mike Johnson · Mar 31, 2021

I did not see them take anything out and put anything different in, just lifted the car and put something underneath it and then lowered it again, not very convincing IMO.

Lister1987 · Mar 31, 2021

Mike Johnson said:
I did not see them take anything out and put anything different in, just lifted the car and put something underneath it and then lowered it again, not very convincing IMO.

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From 2009, ultimately the company went bankrupt but the logistics were there, unfortunately for them; that uptake from manufacturers wasn't.

Zerax · Mar 31, 2021

Mike Johnson said:
I did not see them take anything out and put anything different in, just lifted the car and put something underneath it and then lowered it again, not very convincing IMO.

Mike... the battery is probably attached underneath ?

Mike Johnson · Mar 31, 2021

This is more convincing:

Attached underneath, you don't say.

marcuswareham · Mar 31, 2021

Interesting and

Gavin John Hyde said:
Wpd are now fitting 3 phase cutouts as standard on new installs

Interesting

Also good as makes effective PEN fault monitoring very easy with access to all the phases,

nicebutdim · Apr 1, 2021

Mike Johnson said:
I did not see them take anything out and put anything different in, just lifted the car and put something underneath it and then lowered it again, not very convincing IMO.

The video clearly shows removal and refitting of battery.

Not sure if you ever played spot the difference, but the carriage that slides underneath and rotates came away with a big silver coloured mass that wasn't present when it first appeared, then switched batteries and reversed the process.

Mike Johnson · Apr 1, 2021

nicebutdim said:
The video clearly shows removal and refitting of battery.

Not sure if you ever played spot the difference, but the carriage that slides underneath and rotates came away with a big silver coloured mass that wasn't present when it first appeared, then switched batteries and reversed the process.

That was obviously when I fell asleep, notwithstanding I missed that, the viability is zero, unless all the manufacturers instal the same power system in every car, not going to happen, hence they went bankrupt, I suppose a modular battery system could work, but again only if the manufactures can agree a system, pie in the sky IMO they all think they have the best system and I doubt they would want to share their technology.

snowhead · Apr 1, 2021

Mike Johnson said:
I did not see them take anything out and put anything different in, just lifted the car and put something underneath it and then lowered it again, not very convincing IMO.

I agree about general lack of agreement between manufacturers as they each use different battery modules across their own range and all use different voltage configurations.
But as more joint development takes place and the total number of E.V cars on the road increases it could become feasable

Removal carriage moving in

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Removal carriage with old battery

Replacement battery arriving

Mike Johnson · Apr 1, 2021

That whole video was a farce, one make of car one module, the likelihood of joint development going on between manufactures is pie in the sky, why would one manufacturer want to give away a marketing advantage to another, I think this whole EVA vehicle strategy by Governments and the Environmental lobby has a lot of people fooled, do we really feel that putting wind farms everywhere is the answer, or is it a political move to lower the objections to future nuclear power plants? ?

Oh and just as an aside why has the advertising Ombudsman allowed the term "Self charging Hybrid" when clearly they are not, they need fuel to run the engine that charges the batteries.

There is no such thing as clean energy!

nicebutdim · Apr 1, 2021

Mike Johnson said:
That was obviously when I fell asleep, notwithstanding I missed that, the viability is zero, unless all the manufacturers instal the same power system in every car, not going to happen, hence they went bankrupt, I suppose a modular battery system could work, but again only if the manufactures can agree a system, pie in the sky IMO they all think they have the best system and I doubt they would want to share their technology.

I don't think the system is remotely feasible, but simply wanted to point out that the battery was changed.

Mike Johnson · Apr 1, 2021

Or some blow up bag was inflated to make it look like a box that could have contained a battery, I wonder how many AA's where in it. ?

nicebutdim · Apr 1, 2021

Mike Johnson said:
There is no such thing as clean energy!

Some of the current crop of clean energy generation (and storage) results in an incredible level of pollution, but few want to talk about that.

It makes perfect sense that we should harness nature's energy in order to generate electricty, but there is a long way to go before we can even think about describing this as being anything close to 'clean'.

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