Worlds fastest EICR ?

LukeD · Apr 19, 2021

On My rented property >

Simple info

1. 9 way split circuit board .Twin RCD etc .
2. 2 x bedrooms . living room, hall and kitchen

total time in property : 25 min.

Testing done

1. test of both RCD's
2. I x socket per circuit tested .

NO lights tested , No remarks about massive damp around double socket and one of the sockets on that plate not working . No removal of C/B cover etc etc etc. No test of earthing/Bonding etc

Paper work to be sent over

No wonder this business is ----ed ...

Dustydazzler · Apr 19, 2021

25 mins , I can bang em out in 15

littlespark · Apr 19, 2021

Surprised he took the effort to get out the van.

GBDamo · Apr 19, 2021

Dustydazzler said:
25 mins , I can bang em out in 15

Who was it that famously quipped, "I couldn't untangle my test leads in that time"?

LukeD · Apr 19, 2021

Here is one socket alone ! left Gang dead in the water .very very corroded and messy inside

James · Apr 19, 2021

Have you had a price or paid the bill?

JBW175 · Apr 19, 2021

£75 special by any chance?

They must have spent longer writing the list of LIMS than they did doing the report...?

LukeD · Apr 19, 2021

James said:
Have you had a price or paid the bill?

Thats down to my landlord who has a habit of using the cheapest possible labour and thinking he can fob off tenants

Dustydazzler · Apr 19, 2021

Artisan baker has a wee rant in his latest upload about trying to decipher another niceic installers drive by eicr

Zerax · Apr 19, 2021

LukeD said:
Thats down to my landlord who has a habit of using the cheapest possible labour and thinking he can fob off tenants

Would be interesting to do a proper one... then send both to the NICEIC or whatever body he's with... see if they do anything about it. Tell them you'll send the verdict in The Daily Mail.

LukeD · Apr 19, 2021

Zerax said:
Would be interesting to do a proper one... then send both to the NICEIC or whatever body he's with... see if they do anything about it. Tell them you'll send the verdict in The Daily Mail.

THis has crossed my mind. Today was a " evidence gathering day" They left the check far too late .The 1st April was some time ago. I have evidence of his time in the property .NO plates /sockets removed . Not even a full visual. It was "one socket per room test " and a RCD test . This whole scheme was a farce and its never ever going to be policed . And every property management company can easily find someone to "Be a spark for a hour" and get someone else to copy and paste the document .This is how bad he was.... NOT One screw driver !! Just a Kewtech and a plug/wire/socket lead . I want to see the documents and who signed them first . Old saying "never go to war hungry"

Dartlec · Apr 19, 2021

LukeD said:
Here is one socket alone ! left Gang dead in the water .very very corroded and messy inside

Not sure the usual "no damage to decor" limitation would excuse not removing that one...

I've been surprised by how much the reading can vary on outlets on the same faceplate...

The one benefit of testing on a non-RCD property - the Zs test is so much quicker!

Dartlec · Apr 19, 2021

LukeD said:
THis has crossed my mind. Today was a " evidence gathering day" They left the check far too late .The 1st April was some time ago. I have evidence of his time in the property .NO plates /sockets removed . Not even a full visual. It was "one socket per room test " and a RCD test . This whole scheme was a farce and its never ever going to be policed . And every property management company can easily find someone to "Be a spark for a hour" and get someone else to copy and paste the document .This is how bad he was.... NOT One screw driver !! Just a Kewtech and a plug/wire/socket lead . I want to see the documents and who signed them first . Old saying "never go to war hungry"

If/When they do bother to chase things up and hand out any fines, it will likely be to individual landlords, rather than the big boys who have the money to put up an appeal if necessary and pick holes in the law....

A few of mine have slipped into April, but there are 'best effort' reasons for that generally with tenants being difficult or having medical issues.

HappyHippyDad · Apr 20, 2021

LukeD said:
Thats down to my landlord who has a habit of using the cheapest possible labour and thinking he can fob off tenants

I'm guessing you're planning on taking it further then? Good for you if you are.

LukeD · Apr 20, 2021

happyhippydad said:
I'm guessing you're planning on taking it further then? Good for you if you are.

I will await the certs arriving .Then Call the council Get it logged and ask for an immediate inspection as I believe this is very very common . And 10000's of tenants are been put at risk by greedy landlords

DPG · Apr 20, 2021

LukeD said:
I will await the certs arriving .Then Call the council Get it logged and ask for an immediate inspection as I believe this is very very common . And 10000's of tenants are been put at risk by greedy landlords

The fault is not just with the landlords. This can only happen if dodgy electricians are willing to complete a sham EICR.

LukeD · Apr 20, 2021

Landlords want 'cheap" and a landlord is responsible and knows what a EICR should entail etc . They cannot just excuse it and pretend they had no idea. Some landlords only pay £60 a check etc . it suits them to offer 6 flats and the landlord saves a fortune .The dodgy sparks earns very good money for the day .The tenant is living in a property that could have serious issues ? And what if the guys are not trained at all and just issuing certs ? NO ONE is policing this .Anyone can offer tests and run off with a a lot of money ?

DPG · Apr 20, 2021

LukeD said:
Landlords want 'cheap" and a landlord is responsible and knows what a EICR should entail etc . They cannot just excuse it and pretend they had no idea. Some landlords only pay £60 a check etc . it suits them to offer 6 flats and the landlord saves a fortune .The dodgy sparks earns very good money for the day .The tenant is living in a property that could have serious issues ? And what if the guys are not trained at all and just issuing certs ? NO ONE is policing this .Anyone can offer tests and run off with a a lot of money ?

There are also good landlords who, understandably, do not know anything about electrics, and therefore put their trust in the electrician.

Dustydazzler · Apr 20, 2021

Landlords want safe but cheap in my experience. as long as they get their safety cert they are happy.
Likewise if something needs fixing they fix it.
But if they don't know something needs fixing due to carp EICRs then what can they do...

LukeD · Apr 20, 2021

DPG said:
There are also good landlords who, understandably, do not know anything about electrics, and therefore put their trust in the electrician.

True ! But most landlords with multiple units and using management agents will KNOW

Rockingit · Apr 20, 2021

I left a rented place last year after being there for nearly five years, I'd not 'looked at' anything electrical on principle except that I knew the RCD's all worked. In moving out, I decided it was quicker just to swap out an old socket front that had paint on it rather than spend ages trying to clean it up. Took it off.... no cpc!! Found a second hand plate that was passable as 'original', swapped and moved on. I see the new buyers of the place had another spark's van parked outside for about a week.........

littlespark · Apr 20, 2021

Rockingit said:
I left a rented place last year after being there for nearly five years, I'd not 'looked at' anything electrical on principle except that I knew the RCD's all worked. In moving out, I decided it was quicker just to swap out an old socket front that had paint on it rather than spend ages trying to clean it up. Took it off.... no cpc!! Found a second hand plate that was passable as 'original', swapped and moved on. I see the new buyers of the place had another spark's van parked outside for about a week.........

That’s all fine, until the neighbours tell the new owners the last occupant was a spark.... that’s maybe why you didn’t get the work?

?

Rockingit · Apr 20, 2021

littlespark said:
That’s all fine, until the neighbours tell the new owners the last occupant was a spark.... that’s maybe why you didn’t get the work?

?

Nah, it's all a bit more complex and political than that! Besides, the old neighbour runs a commercial M&E and subs his electrical work to me!!

Grant1987 · Apr 20, 2021

Dustydazzler said:
Artisan baker has a wee rant in his latest upload about trying to decipher another niceic installers drive by eicr

Drive by EICRS ? thats the common phrase round my area and we aren’t yet at the stage of requiring an up to date EICR in Wales yet like the landlords in England and Scotland. I can’t wait till it all sets off and I’m then asked to carry out fault finding on a recently tested property. Not many sparks can fault find which is shocking (excuse the pun)

telectrix · Apr 21, 2021

25 minutes is disgusting. i take at least 30 minutes to get from the van to the front door.

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