What are your views on this plumtricians install

Nigel sparks · May 31, 2021

Hi seen this install in a restaurant toilet , the copper pipe is not earthed and he has managed to get two flexes in it. What is your opinion please?

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IAmSparkytus! · May 31, 2021

Nice pipework. The YT2 lets it down.

loz2754 · May 31, 2021

Obviously they were going for the industrial steam punk look.
The copper pipes may or may not require an earth connection, as the cables are insulated and sheathed. However, I would personally err on the side of caution and provide the pipes with a connection to the circuit protective conductor, in case a cable becomes damaged and causes the pipes to become live.

Nigel sparks · May 31, 2021

loz2754 said:
Obviously they were going for the industrial steam punk look.
The copper pipes may or may not require an earth connection, as the cables are insulated and sheathed. However, I would personally err on the side of caution and provide the pipes with a connection to the circuit protective conductor, in case a cable becomes damaged and causes the pipes to become live.

Thank you for reply, that’s what I thought. Cable could easy damage as there is big loop to light crying out to be swung off

LukeD · May 31, 2021

Lets hope this was done last year or before ..Are people still doing this steam punk look ? !!!

FatAlan · May 31, 2021

Let down by the pipe terminations to the box on the skirting and the light fitting. As Loz re CPC connection.

littlespark · May 31, 2021

Steampunk industrial look or not..... copper pipe shouldnt be used for electrical cables.

Same as using hosepipe buried outside as a cable duct.

Could have used galv conduit and proper electrical fittings.

Nigel sparks · May 31, 2021

I quite agree, I don’t know whether or not to contact the restaurant where I saw it and advise them that it’s dangerous. The lights did trip three times during our meal

nicebutdim · May 31, 2021

The restaurant owner may be partial to a bit of DIY.

littlespark · May 31, 2021

I get a row off the wife if i mention the state of light fittings in pubs and restaurants.

If the power is tripping regularly like that, i'd be wary of defrosted food that they might be selling to me

MJPD29 · May 31, 2021

Rubbish job. Copper conduit, boxes and fittings is available, and although it would have been more expensive it would have ebena proper job. That is amateur DIY rubbish.

DPG · May 31, 2021

Great word though, plumtrician.

Dustydazzler · May 31, 2021

what A waste of expensive copper tube , could have uses black plastic drain pipe and achieved the same industrial look

littlespark · May 31, 2021

DPG said:
Great word though, plumtrician.

Means the same as "knobskull" apparently

Dustydazzler · May 31, 2021

littlespark said:
Means the same as "knobskull" apparently

Wasn’t there an infamous plumberelectrician on YouTube

Nigel sparks · May 31, 2021

Restaurant is owned by a one Michelin star chef. Maybe he should sell Michelin tyres instead if he is doing the plumtricians work

nicebutdim · May 31, 2021

Can't get my head around cable entry and exit. Surely no one could stand back and take it in thinking 'that looks good'.

Nigel sparks · May 31, 2021

nicebutdim said:
Can't get my head around cable entry and exit. Surely no one could stand back and take it in thinking 'that looks good'.

I was beginning to think it was only me who thought it was bad , there seems to be a lot of support/defence for it

FatAlan · May 31, 2021

Shiny copper pipe usually looks good in the gents when stood at the urinal when I’m admiring the ---- tiling on the wall ??

brianmoooore · May 31, 2021

The likelihood or not of the flex being cut into by the pipe ends depends a lot on how the pipe was cut and deburred. A pipe cutter leaves a razor sharp edge inside the end of the pipe, which should then be flattened off by a V shaped tool rotated in the end of the pipe. If used properly the sharp edge is removed, but not the whole bur.
As a plumbtrician myself, on multiple occasions, and despite warnings, I've had kids pounce on short (3mm - 10mm) trimmings from the end of pipes, slip them on their fingers, shouting "mummy, I've got a gold ring" before dissolving into floods of tears as the crimson starts flowing.

OnlQQker · May 31, 2021

Hmmm, and what happens when Wayne the local handyman decides to Tee into it in 2 years time cuz the restaurant owner wants an outside tap.

ipf · May 31, 2021

They're going to the pi$$ stones,
unless he's got magic fingers...wiring the 90 and 'T'

What are your views on this plumtricians install

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