Dodgy trade pictures for your amusement! - 1 Million Views!

Darkwood · Mar 21, 2015

Right ... Just been nudged to set this up by Paul.M and sounds a good idea following recent threads I've done in the Arms..

Rules....No Offensive material... edit if required before posting as this is the public arena.
Anything to do with the trade or in and around it ...H&S pic's welcome.

[ElectriciansForums.net] Dodgy trade pictures for your amusement! - 1 Million Views!

I've posted this a few times and this is at a mates house following a kitchen refirb several yrs ago.

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Pete999 · May 28, 2021

Doomed said:
There wasn't one - doing an EICR and I always check the continuity between any fixed conductive appliance and earth and this time it turned this up - I had to check the Zs at the appliance out of curiosity once I had pulled it out (and as it is a rental bet you can't guess the cleanliness behind the cooker)

I can efin filthy, right?

ipf · May 28, 2021

Doomed said:
There wasn't one - doing an EICR and I always check the continuity between any fixed conductive appliance and earth and this time it turned this up - I had to check the Zs at the appliance out of curiosity once I had pulled it out (and as it is a rental bet you can't guess the cleanliness behind the cooker)

Somehow, I think he's jesting....?

MJPD29 · May 28, 2021

So close yet so far

123 · May 28, 2021

Why anyone uses those cooker connection plates is beyond me though, and T&E to connect to an appliance don't get me started

ipf · May 28, 2021

123 said:
Why anyone uses those cooker connection plates is beyond me though, and T&E to connect to an appliance don't get me started

I don't know if things have changed but 6.0mm T+E was the general way of connection to a domestic cooker. The stranded L and N were ideal for connection......at the outlet and the appliance.
In the photo example, the cores have been cut and, it looks like, the ends removed from the connections. Was it a pathetic attempt at isolation or something more sinister, I wonder?.....why not just remove the cable?

pc1966 · May 28, 2021

I see no issue with T&E used for an appliance like a cooker. After all it is hardly movable, let alone subject to regular flexing.

Yes, you could use H07RN-F (with ferrules, of course) but often much bigger, more expensive, and hardly necessary.

ipf · May 28, 2021

pc1966 said:
I see no issue with T&E used for an appliance like a cooker. After all it is hardly movable, let alone subject to regular flexing.

Yes, you could use H07RN-F (with ferrules, of course) but often much bigger, more expensive, and hardly necessary.

.....and a low level outlet preventing a cable hanging directly from the cooker unit, in some cases.

nicebutdim · May 28, 2021

pc1966 said:
I see no issue with T&E used for an appliance like a cooker. After all it is hardly movable, let alone subject to regular flexing.

Yes, you could use H07RN-F (with ferrules, of course) but often much bigger, more expensive, and hardly necessary.

Pulled the oven out last year to replace element and noticed it and hob were wired in what appeared to be 3093Y.

GBDamo · Jun 2, 2021

Bullseye ?

How not to repair a cable....

westward10 · Jun 3, 2021

Another old service head recently converted to TN-C-S. Head isn't earthed and probably never has been.

westward10 · Jun 3, 2021

Just how hot had this open backed batten holder been and for how many years.

Darkwood · Jun 3, 2021

@westward10
Oh the irony if you told us that was behind a heat detector you removed, that would have confused a few members ?

Dartlec · Jun 6, 2021

Behold this joy I found today in the communal meter cupboard of a 15-20 year old block of flats....

Locked door, but one which every flat has the key too since they need to read the meters (or insert credit keys in some cases)

On an unrelated note, the intercom/door control has never worked properly - wonder why?!

Bonus install of emergency luminaire in the stairwell - single insulated conductors visible behind, Clearly the cable was too short when they moved it off the wall for some non-obvious reason....

loz2754 · Jun 9, 2021

Customer wanted an additional socket fitted to the left of the existing. This is what I found:

Top of the class to anyone who figures out what the 1mm twin and earth is doing there!

All done now. Removed the buried JB. Checked the ring was ok and Wagoed ©® the hell out of it.

Note the Copyrighted new word usage...

MJPD29 · Jun 9, 2021

loz2754 said:
Customer wanted an additional socket fitted to the left of the existing. This is what I found:

Top of the class to anyone who figures out what the 1mm twin and earth is doing there!

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All done now. Removed the buried JB. Checked the ring was ok and Wagoed ©® the hell out of it.

Note the Copyrighted new word usage...

Registered trademark too your well on the ball

SJD · Jun 9, 2021

loz2754 said:
Top of the class to anyone who figures out what the 1mm twin and earth is doing there!

Perhaps something fed from an FCU that used to be where the round j/b was found?

loz2754 · Jun 9, 2021

SJD said:
Perhaps something fed from an FCU that used to be where the round j/b was found?

Nope

DPG · Jun 9, 2021

Feeds a permanent live to an outside light?

timhoward · Jun 9, 2021

Wild guess - old 5A socket for a table lamp?

loz2754 · Jun 9, 2021

timhoward said:
Wild guess - old 5A socket for a table lamp?

DPG said:
Feeds a permanent live to an outside light?

Nope

DPG · Jun 9, 2021

Smoke alarm

loz2754 · Jun 9, 2021

It's for a wall light higher up on the same wall, fed from a lighting circuit.

Further investigation revealed that the lights are wired without CPCs, so whoever installed the wall lights thought they might as well run the cable down to the socket to borrow a CPC from the socket, and then back up to the wall light.

Informed the homeowner of the situation.

littlespark · Jun 9, 2021

I thought it was going to be something stupid like a 7kW shower

static zap · Jun 9, 2021

loz2754 said:
Top of the class to anyone who figures out what the 1mm twin and earth is doing there!

Feed to wall lights, cos their missing Gas lamps on the walls .Made easy to light..
( while sloshed after an affordable visit to the pub, away from the Mrs )

Dustydazzler · Jun 9, 2021

Hope it’s not a halogen wall light

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