Interesting connector.

Mike Johnson · Jul 4, 2021

Should be in the Arms section, but : Compact Wire Connectors, CTRICALVER 6 pcs Compact Splicing Connectors, Lever Nut Assortment Conductor, 3 in 6 Out Electrical Connectors Blocks with 18 pcs Screws : Amazon.co.uk: DIY & Tools - https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B08MFBZL7T?ref=em_1p_0_ti&ref_=pe_2443641_604751431

telectrix · Jul 4, 2021

similar to the toolstation ones but with extra outgoing terminals. useful to have a few on the van

Mike Johnson · Jul 4, 2021

When I first posted the toolstation ones in the Arms I got all sorts of ridiculous flack, including the yellow lever did not have a green stripe, obviously they have become a bit more acceptable since then.

telectrix · Jul 4, 2021

Mike Johnson said:
When I first posted the toolstation ones in the Arms I got all sorts of ridiculous flack, including the yellow lever did not have a green stripe, obviously they have become a bit more acceptable since then.

used a few of them on cable repairs. nice and compact. you don't need to get slack to fit wagos. bit of heatshrink if you want to be pedantic.

Dustydazzler · Jul 4, 2021

Can see these type of 3 way splitter connectors being used a lot on the continent Where they wire alot with singles in tube

ipf · Jul 4, 2021

They look useful. Shame they're so many years behind with the colours.
What about a BS number?

Lucien Nunes · Jul 4, 2021

It depends whether you want safety approvals or just something that works. I use them for non-critical applixations and they are great, but for real stuff I need products with real approvals and tech backup.

pirate · Jul 5, 2021

Looking at that advert, I particularly like where it says under REUSABLE: "Every junction independent shrapnel"...

Mike Johnson · Jul 5, 2021

ipf said:
They look useful. Shame they're so many years behind with the colours.
What about a BS number?

Continental Europe still use Red as the live conductor in Circuits, in fact so is Black, Orange, Purple in fact any colour other than Blue or Green.

telectrix · Jul 5, 2021

Mike Johnson said:
Continental Europe still use Red as the live conductor in Circuits, in fact so is Black, Orange, Purple in fact any colour other than Blue or Green.

so much for harmonisation then. only us (IET) stupid enough to change.

Mike Johnson · Jul 5, 2021

As had been the way since we joined the EU, we seemed to take on all that the EU dictated, not anymore, we can but hope.

ipf · Jul 5, 2021

telectrix said:
so much for harmonisation then. only us (IET) stupid enough to change.

Yeah, I thought we changed from RYB to 'get in line' with EU.

Mind you, it was another means of money making, so I suppose we can understand our brilliant top businessmen and leaders making a bob or two (billion) out of it.
I wonder if we'll get a change back by the 19th.....just for a repeat performance.?

pc1966 · Jul 5, 2021

ipf said:
Yeah, I thought we changed from RYB to 'get in line' with EU.

It was not an EU thing, it was IEC. The goal made sense, to have harmonised colours, but the choices made were stupid.

In nature things that are dangerous to touch or eat advertise that aspect via bright colours (wasps, ladybirds, poisonous frogs, poisonous snakes, etc) so that would be a sane choice for live conductors.

Instead got black and brown, both seen by the general public as "safe" and not colours you can have on indicator lights either

Basically that was the most common set among those taking part, so they became the IEC choices. Some countries like France have other reserved colours for things like switched live, which ought to have been an aspect made more general among standard bodies.

ipf · Jul 5, 2021

pc1966 said:
It was not an EU thing, it was IEC. The goal made sense, to have harmonised colours, but the choices made were stupid.

I realise that, just moaning. As regards harmonising, it just made it worse. Whoever came up with the idea certainly had no visual impairment (slight, even). That 'goal' is just never going to be reached, is it?

static zap · Jul 5, 2021

Approval - and unprofessional ideas. --Plus "WHACKY Thoughts "
(- below -)
(re-use -- where circuit will not be scrutinised to the last 0.1 Ohm )
... The sales men -will tout versatility.
(rather than absolute safety)
-- below ---
Can we find a paper ?
" Sided by side connection comparison of
screw terminals -vs- Level action connectors ,long term contact resistance reliability ..in an environment ,
where an SDS hammer drill will be used in close vacinity "

Mike Johnson · Jul 5, 2021

Is it just me or does anyone understand "static zap" posts?

Mike Johnson · Jul 5, 2021

pc1966 said:
Some countries like France have other reserved colours for things like switched live, which ought to have been an aspect made more general among standard bodies.

Trouble is that only works if you have individual cores, can't work with T&E unless we have rainbow coloured sleeve's to put over the one we choose to be the switched live, and then we are back to where we started.

LastManOnline · Jul 5, 2021

Mike Johnson said:
Continental Europe still use Red as the live conductor in Circuits, in fact so is Black, Orange, Purple in fact any colour other than Blue or Green.

Germany, Sweden, Holland, Belgium, Norway, Austria, Denmark etc(to name but a few) all use Brown as their live conductor and have done for many years. Long before it became a CENELEC requirement in 2011

static zap · Jul 5, 2021

Mike Johnson said:
does anyone understand "static zap" posts?

Don't worry , I was attempting to test the water , for a
Compare caged screw terminals , with Lever action.
-- The water was COLD --
(Chat to my friend - Buzz ) nothing ventured ..

(---The Engineer in me gets too excited at times---)

LastManOnline · Jul 5, 2021

telectrix said:
so much for harmonisation then. only us (IET) stupid enough to change.

May not be what you wanted to hear but the current phase colours of brown, black, grey (Obviously blue as neutral) were proposed by.... you guessed it.. the UK and accepted by the Europeans way back in the early days of your membership

Vortigern · Jul 5, 2021

Yeh looking at the description I was with them until the bit about........

Every junction independent shrapnel, different wire managed separately, different diameter can be connect security. There are test hole in every connector surface, electric test can be completed without removing tape, intuitive and easy. Tip: Bilateral pressure rod terminal, Connect the positive pole, negative pole and ground of the power supply respectively.

Errr what????

Mike Johnson · Jul 5, 2021

LastManOnline said:
Germany, Sweden, Holland, Belgium, Norway, Austria, Denmark etc(to name but a few) all use Brown as their live conductor and have done for many years. Long before it became a CENELEC requirement in 2011

Just to confuse matters even more in France Brown is used inside the consumer unit for the Phase, but Red is used for Phase in the circuits outside the CU, Orange is used for switched live and Purple for strapping and it is acceptable to use any colour for Phase, except Blue and Green, the main problem is using different electricians can cause an awful lot of confusion according to what they have on the van.

LastManOnline · Jul 5, 2021

Mike Johnson said:
Just to confuse matters even more in France Brown is used inside the consumer unit for the Phase, but Red is used for Phase in the circuits outside the CU, Orange is used for switched live and Purple for strapping and it is acceptable to use any colour for Phase, except Blue and Green, the main problem is using different electricians can cause an awful lot of confusion according to what they have on the van.

I, m not familiar with the French system but the brown live, blue neutral, green/yellow earth is the rule not the exception in the majority of continental Europe. Its in use in countries like Holland and Belgium since the early eighties

Dartlec · Jul 5, 2021

I have some I recently bought, though only with red and blue - thought they might be useful for splitting 12V fittings neatly for under cabinet lighting, etc.

Not sure I'd use them somewhere hidden under a floor at 230V to be honest, not permanently anyway, but certainly handy things to have.

Would be nice to see Wago take some of the ideas on board and produce ones that can be used with confidence.....

A set of the wago 221s back to back would make a very neat and slim way to extend a cable...

telectrix · Jul 6, 2021

Dartlec said:
I have some I recently bought, though only with red and blue - thought they might be useful for splitting 12V fittings neatly for under cabinet lighting, etc.

Not sure I'd use them somewhere hidden under a floor at 230V to be honest, not permanently anyway, but certainly handy things to have.

Would be nice to see Wago take some of the ideas on board and produce ones that can be used with confidence.....

A set of the wago 221s back to back would make a very neat and slim way to extend a cable...