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Right ... Just been nudged to set this up by Paul.M and sounds a good idea following recent threads I've done in the Arms..

Rules....No Offensive material... edit if required before posting as this is the public arena.
Anything to do with the trade or in and around it ...H&S pic's welcome.

[ElectriciansForums.net] Dodgy trade pictures for your amusement! - 1 Million Views!

I've posted this a few times and this is at a mates house following a kitchen refirb several yrs ago. :eek:mg_smile:

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Called out to a cottage on a farm over the weekend where the previous occupant (a "maintenance" engineer) had been fiddling over the years...

Complete basketcase of an install, with one 16A radial socket circuit feeding 2 bedrooms, kitchen and lounge - with various cables cut for no apparent reasons behind sockets and cabling joined randomly up in the loft.

RCD protected (up front) in a Hager board, so I guess I can't complain too much...

Found this joy in the loft though- Running power and lighting to a new conservatory, in new cabling...

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This fed by a single 2.5 twin and earth on a 16A MCB from the main board. At least it was in the loft where only the squirrel sized rats can get at it....
 
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Lighting contactors installed butted up to one another. They are all working, but buzz loudly. They must be really cooked inside. The installation is mirrored on the opposite side of this building, those were installed with a 1 module gap between each contactor, those all work quietly with no signs of overheating.
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Cable theft at the same site as above. 500mm2 AWAs connected to the LV side of a 2MVA transformer, the 11Kv VCB was still in the service position and simply tripped, nothing stopping anyone from closing it again.
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Paralleled 300mm2 AWAs
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All that remains of a 4000A supply to a building, quadrupled 630mm2 AWAs. I measured up the cable run, the cost to purchase new cable came to just under £100K. This 3MVA transformer was still energised when I took this photo.
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It's not often terminal boxes are large enough to fit inside...
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After some inspection, It would appear that over 30 tonnes of cable has been stolen from this site.
 
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ipf said:
Pikey signed for that lot.
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There is suspicion that it was by contractors not paid for work carried out during a plant upgrade that was never finished before the previous company went bust, or the management trying to get money back from their huge debts. They knew exactly what they were doing, knew what was fed from where. They switched off only the circuits that they were going to remove, and locked areas/cabinets were all opened by keys and not forced. 2 transformers feed the main building, they had cut the supply from 1 and refed that half of the building by closing a busbar coupling switch so the whole building is now fed from 1 transformer. 70-240mm2 swa cables were taken but only ones that powered plant equipment, not lighting or the overhead cranes. 16 large control panels for the plant were carefully removed and taken away and single and 3 phase maintenance sockets throughout had their cables carefully removed and then the sockets were screwed back on, at a glance the plant looked largely complete!

Either way it doesn't help the new site owners. They wanted to purchase the buildings fed by the 4000A supply but the cost of getting power back in is putting them off.
 
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Getting their cash back, to a degree, then?
They must have been sure about not getting caught.

Sounds more of like ' The Italian Job' than 'Bonnie and Clyde'.

Big site. Thinking of plant and transport needed, is it in the middle of nowhere, without security?
 
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Since the site closed there has been a security guard on site 24 hours a day. It must have taken a substantial amount of time as most cables taken had the glands removed too. The scale of it is so large, not the sort of thing you would just chuck in the back of an old Transit van! We have started replacing some of the cables, just one run of 120mm2 4 core weighed 1.25 tonnes...
 
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DPG said:
Obviously a lot of thorough testing was carried out when the work was completed then eh.
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About five years ago I suggested a rewire as much of the wiring is 50+ years old. Whoever replaced the board have actually made it worse.
 
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Previously there were five sales area lighting circuits but all had interconnected neutrals at the light switch, easy to resolve. Now they have fitted rcbos all 42 lights in the shop are shoved in one rcbo???
 
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westward10 said:
About five years ago I suggested a rewire as much of the wiring is 50+ years old. Whoever replaced the board have actually made it worse.
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Disgrace. How can such people masquerade as electricians?
Damage to the new board, too...carried through with the drill? and that cb, as well?
Was it not a level surface to begin with?
Levitation... or have the two outside conduits grown wings?
 
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