NICEIC Certification Scheme EICR Remedial Works evidence

FreeBeam · Nov 10, 2021

Hi all,

Newbie here and looking for some advice and confirmation. We are planning to rent out our home and have completed EICR through the agents. The EICR came back with a few C2.

240v fan in shower cubicle C2
Socket backbox damaged in lounge C2
Socket backbox damaged in hallway C2
IP of boiler spur C2
IP of garage socket C2
Connection of kitchen downlights not enclosed C2

The quote came out to be £455 to fix the above C2s from the same company carrying out the EICR. I am not sure if this is reasonable but my question is about the remedial works itself.

The same company completed the remedial works and has issued a cover letter stating that works have been done quoting a reference to each C2 and now the overall assessment is "Satisfactory" with a reference number to the EICR. The cover letter does not have any name, stamp, signature but just company's address on the top right. Is it an acceptable type of evidence for the remedial works? Or do we need to some standard certificate or signed paper?

Thanks

telectrix · Nov 10, 2021

soulds OK. you have the EICR and evidence to show that the faults have been rectified.

I do, however, disagree with someof those codings. e.g. a 240V fan ina showere enclosure is perfectly
comliant as long as the IP rating is IPX4 or better.

damaged back boxes a C2 if there's a potential danger evident. if not, then a C3 is the right coding

Those IP ratings, can't say without seeing.

downlight connections unenclosed is only a C3.

£455 seems excessive for that half day's work.

littlespark · Nov 10, 2021

Never known a boiler switch needing to be IP rated unless it’s outside.
Same with garage socket, unless inside of garage is likely to get wet (spray washing inside?)

Too late now to do anything, but photographs of the issues before being sorted would have maybe brought up discrepancies.

Deleted account · Nov 10, 2021

littlespark said:
Never known a boiler switch needing to be IP rated unless it’s outside.
Same with garage socket, unless inside of garage is likely to get wet (spray washing inside?)

Too late now to do anything, but photographs of the issues before being sorted would have maybe brought up discrepancies.

Could have cable entry in top or bottom too big maybe, but I’d expect the inspector to say this.

Deleted account · Nov 10, 2021

The codings seem ok to me. Also the paperwork will be acceptable.

I normally do a statement of fact fo4 landlords stating what has been don3 to rectify any issues stating that if an EICR where to be now done a satisfactory result would be gained as long as no other issues have arisen since the report was done.
however this is not required. It’s what I do.

the price. Does seem far too high for half a day in Leeds.
unless There was more to the extractor job than swapping fo4 a higher IP rated one.

half day labour £150- £200
materials £ 50- £100

total £200-£300
obviously there may be more to this than I am seeing.
was the property empty or inhabited. Are the tenants accommodating? Are the issues accessible within the property.
£455 does seem excessive but if there are access issues…...
How much was the EICR?

brianmoooore · Nov 10, 2021

littlespark said:
Never known a boiler switch needing to be IP rated unless it’s outside.
Same with garage socket, unless inside of garage is likely to get wet (spray washing inside?)

Too late now to do anything, but photographs of the issues before being sorted would have maybe brought up discrepancies.

It will be finger access IP. Only needs to be IP20 doesn't it? That still allows a very large hole, especially if it's already partly filled with a cable.

DPG · Nov 10, 2021

littlespark said:
Never known a boiler switch needing to be IP rated unless it’s outside.
Same with garage socket, unless inside of garage is likely to get wet (spray washing inside?)

Too late now to do anything, but photographs of the issues before being sorted would have maybe brought up discrepancies.

Don't forget, 'IP rated' does not mean waterproof. Although a lot of people seem to use it in that manner.

littlespark · Nov 10, 2021

That’s what I was taking it as. “IP” to mean IP6x or whatever

newfutile · Nov 10, 2021

416.2.2 A horizontal top surface of a barrier or enclosure which is readily accessible shall provide a degree
of protection ofat least IPXXD or IP4X

DefyG · Nov 10, 2021

If the inspector thought a 230v extractor fan was a C2 his only course to rectify that would be a 12volt fan which could involve more work than immediately seems, and hence higher price for both materials and labour.

brianmoooore · Nov 10, 2021

DefyG said:
If the inspector thought a 230v extractor fan was a C2 his only course to rectify that would be a 12volt fan which could involve more work than immediately seems, and hence higher price for both materials and labour.

OP shouldn't be paying out money because of the inspector's incompetence.

DefyG · Nov 10, 2021

brianmoooore said:
OP shouldn't be paying out money because of the inspector's incompetence.

Agreed but bit late now, the quote was accepted and job done! but would go someway to justifying the figure quoted!

FreeBeam · Nov 11, 2021

Thanks, everyone for the response. Really appreciated. Below a few pictures from my records (Not provided by the electrician)
1) Extractor fan, no coring was involved, simple replacement.
2) Sockets were slightly tilted, not sure if anything was broken at the back.
3) Ditto
4) Boiler siwtch, not IP rated so fair comment. The garage is fully covered by the way.
5) Same as Boilder so fair comment. The garage is fully covered by the way.
6) Dont know what is it.

Like I said, may be too expensive but didn't want the hassle hence paid the Contractor.

If a remedial report without a signature/name/stamp is acceptable then I have no issues. I am a bit surprised that something without a sign/stamp is allowed for such an important job.

FreeBeam · Nov 11, 2021

I would just like to clarify that a quote was provided and we accepted it so inspector is not at fault. It should have been up to us to check and verify or query the quote before accepting.

The purpose of my post was to understand the process involved in the remedial works. Sharing the cost and defects was only for other members who may go through the same process and would benefit from it.

DefyG · Nov 11, 2021

FreeBeam said:
1) Extractor fan, no coring was involved, simple replacement.

Confused! If the inspector thought a 230v fan was a C2 and it was a simple replacement, it could only have been replaced with a 230v model which in the inspectors eyes is still a C2!!!

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