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Simple question - if you touch and continue to hold on to the sensor wire, does the dimmer behave in the same way; ie lamp stays on at the dimmest setting. Or does it do something different?
Thanks Avo for your continued interest.

If I touch and hold the sensor wire, it will stay on the dimmest setting, it only changes when released and touched again….. (as it should).
Once connected to the base (or any other metal part of the lamp, it sticks at dimmest stage 1.

To compound my confusion and found out by accident, if I connect the touch sensor as normal, then lean on (touch) another double insulated lamp with a metal base, the problem lamp operates perfectly through all 3 dimmer stages and off.!!!

I have a pair of these lamps to repair and they both have the same problem.
 
Thanks Avo for your continued interest.

If I touch and hold the sensor wire, it will stay on the dimmest setting, it only changes when released and touched again….. (as it should).
Once connected to the base (or any other metal part of the lamp, it sticks at dimmest stage 1.

To compound my confusion and found out by accident, if I connect the touch sensor as normal, then lean on (touch) another double insulated lamp with a metal base, the problem lamp operates perfectly through all 3 dimmer stages and off.!!!

I have a pair of these lamps to repair and they both have the same problem.
OK, so you have shown that the sensor is behaving as we might expect if the troublesome lamp is 'loading' the sensor because of leakage or excessive capacitance.

You need the minimum of capacitive coupling between all the metalwork and L an N mains wires. Is the wire you have running in the 'stalk' of the lamp three core by any chance? I think that might be a problem.
It may also be that cable in the 'stalk' is the issue?
 
OK, so you have shown that the sensor is behaving as we might expect if the troublesome lamp is 'loading' the sensor because of leakage or excessive capacitance.

You need the minimum of capacitive coupling between all the metalwork and L an N mains wires. Is the wire you have running in the 'stalk' of the lamp three core by any chance? I think that might be a problem.
It may also be that cable in the 'stalk' is the issue?
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2 core to the sensor
3 core to light L N to lamp and “sensor wire” to base only
Sorry, I 'm not clear on the overall wiring.
You say earlier the sensor is inline. is this the first lamp you have done with this configuration. Presumably the sensor box would be in the lamp base if you could accommodate it there?
So there is a length of flex between sensing box and lamp, carrying L, N, and sense? How long is that?
It seems to me the sense wire is being loaded up with more capacitance or leakage that usual.
Does it run in the 3-core flex for very long?
 

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