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Following from a recent thread mentioning some continental electrical practice, I made this mock-up of something you might see in an older installation in a certain West-European country. It's not standard practice now but is widespread enough to have a specific name. What is the name of this specific circuit arrangement in the local language? Not sure if we have any sparks from the country in question on here but please let the Brits have a try!

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timhoward said:
We are now in Holland?! ..
Little aside -in my old IT job I learned OK and Cancel in most languages fairly rapidly as I was doing support for people all over Europe.
Actually visiting Holland didn't help. The shops have Uit over the exit. So I assumed Uitwerken was cancel. Ooops. I was told it means Out-working (OK!)
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I used to be ringing california for tech support when I was in the US


Staff would be laughing at me trying to follow the chinese accents
 
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Lucien Nunes said:
Ja, aber diese Art von Sicherung hat ihren Ursprung in Deutschland
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I have an unfair advantage with this one - I had to get highly creative to get an outside broadcast unit powered enough to function off something similar once. But that's another story for another day.
I seem to recall "Zekering stoppen" was an important phrase.
 
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Colours are different to the UK ones though, and there's a story behind how they were originally chosen by Siemens. The coloured disc in the middle of the endcap is an indicator - it pops out when the fuse blows so you can see at a glance through the window in the screw cap.
 
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Nope. There are more different meanings for different colours of fuse than you can shake an MCB at:

A red fuse could mean:
BS1362 3A
Blade car fuse 10A
Continental car fuse 16A
US plug type panel fuse 20A
BS1361 30A
etc etc

Your clue here is: Briefmarken.
 
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@LastManOnline got there: 10A red, 16A grey. Bonus to @Vortigern for identifying the type of fuse.
DIAZED:: Diametrisch abgestufter zweiteiliger Edison-Schmelzstöpsel.

Two-part Edison-screw fuse insert differentiated by diameter. I.e. the diameter of the 'nose' contact depends on the rating. Each fuse holder has an interchangeable gauge ring or screw base of matching colour that will accept any fuse up to its size but not a larger one.

A very good design of fuse with high performance from the very beginning, now over a century old. This is the DII range up to 25A, the DIII range with a larger body covers the higher ratings. Technically superseded by the Neozed D01 and D02 designed on similar lines in a more compact format, but both ranges are still to be found in widespread use throughout Europe.

The Dutch fuse box has, like all of its era, a DP isolator for each outgoing way. A nice feature that no-one in the UK thought to implement. Also interchangeable cable entry plates (blank / large hole / small hole / coupling to next box) that just slot in.

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And the complete box, kindly sent to me along with various other dutch wiring accessories, by Oof Oud of the plug and socket museum.

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Lucien Nunes said:
@LastManOnline got there: 10A red, 16A grey. Bonus to @Vortigern for identifying the type of fuse.
DIAZED:: Diametrisch abgestufter zweiteiliger Edison-Schmelzstöpsel.

Two-part Edison-screw fuse insert differentiated by diameter. I.e. the diameter of the 'nose' contact depends on the rating. Each fuse holder has an interchangeable gauge ring or screw base of matching colour that will accept any fuse up to its size but not a larger one.

A very good design of fuse with high performance from the very beginning, now over a century old and still in use throughout Europe. This is the DII range up to 25A, the DIII range with a larger body covers the higher ratings. Technically superseded by the Neozed, D02 and D03 but both are still to be found.

The Dutch fuse box has, like all of its era, a DP isolator for each outgoing way. A nice feature that no-one in the UK thought to implement. Also interchangeable cable entry plates (blank / large hole / small hole / coupling to next box) that just slot in.

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There was also available in Holland a resettable fuse which was a real game changer in the pre-mcb days. Saved invaluable time and inconvenience during faultfinding. Its probably the kind of item you have hundreds of. Just in case you don, t, I kept one as a souvenir and you would be very welcome to it if would serve some purpose in your collection.
 
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Oo yes please, we don't have any of those. A few modern Chinese screw-in MCBs only here. At some point I would like to make up displays of different wiring systems of various countries in addition to the different eras of UK, for comparison.
 
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Lucien Nunes said:
Oo yes please, we don't have any of those. A few modern Chinese screw-in MCBs only here. At some point I would like to make up displays of different wiring systems of various countries in addition to the different eras of UK, for comparison.
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No problem. Will do a little digging. It, s there somewhere
 
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Oo yes please, we don't have any of those. A few modern Chinese screw-in MCBs only here. At some point I would like to make up displays of different wiring systems of various countries in addition to the different eras of UK, for comparison.
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This was what I was referring to to??
 

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