Good Old Delroy, he gets all the best Jobs :)

Dustydazzler · Oct 10, 2021

mainline · Jan 3, 2022

Dave OCD said:
Why on earth didn't he A- check the dry lining box cutting area with a bradawl first to check for timbers behind or B - just fix the plasterboard back with a couple of screws and make the double box cutout an inch and a half higher- or lower ??
Instead of butchering the timber frame and making extra work.....

He hacked the wall to bits, when you can see the cable could have been easily fished.

I wonder how many people think that a Bus bar is called Buzz Bar because of the likes of David Savery, I did actually ask him a while back "whats a buzz bar" his reply was something to do with putting it in a**es.

Another one who bans criticism.

I did think he was a decent spark, but I've seen a few of his jobs that were far from decent his latest one where he thought it was fine to have no rcd on an outside light.

Pretty Mouth · Jan 4, 2022

Dave OCD said:
Why on earth didn't he A- check the dry lining box cutting area with a bradawl first to check for timbers behind or B - just fix the plasterboard back with a couple of screws and make the double box cutout an inch and a half higher- or lower ??
Instead of butchering the timber frame and making extra work.....

I personally don't think cutting into a noggin for a backbox is such a big problem in the grand scheme, if it gets the accessory to where the customer wants it. A lot of newer builds don't have noggins in their stud walls anyway.

mainline said:
He hacked the wall to bits, when you can see the cable could have been easily fished.

He cut one more hole than was absolutely necessary, but you saw the state of the wall anyway, hardly a big deal when it all needs patching up.

The cable route in the vid possibly raises an eyebrow, but perhaps it will be >50mm from the surface.

Dustydazzler · Jan 4, 2022

Pretty Mouth said:
I personally don't think cutting into a noggin for a backbox is such a big problem in the grand scheme, if it gets the accessory to where the customer wants it. A lot of newer builds don't have noggins in their stud walls anyway.

He cut one more hole than was absolutely necessary, but you saw the state of the wall anyway, hardly a big deal when it all needs patching up.

The cable route in the vid possibly raises an eyebrow, but perhaps it will be >50mm from the surface.

I thought that , but once the wall is re-boarded with 12.5 mm board and tiled the cable will likely be 50mm below surface so no zone required

I also agree that chopping the joist is no big deal , more time consuming yes but he makes a nice job of it and the box has something nice to fix to...

Zerax · Jan 4, 2022

I did laugh though when the appearance of the noggin was clearly a surprise to him !

Dustydazzler · Jan 4, 2022

Quite a lot of older builds have random placed bits of wood and pipes at random places

mainline · Jan 4, 2022

Pretty Mouth said:
I personally don't think cutting into a noggin for a backbox is such a big problem in the grand scheme, if it gets the accessory to where the customer wants it. A lot of newer builds don't have noggins in their stud walls anyway.

He cut one more hole than was absolutely necessary, but you saw the state of the wall anyway, hardly a big deal when it all needs patching up.

The cable route in the vid possibly raises an eyebrow, but perhaps it will be >50mm from the surface.

No not a problem as such but look at all the extra work he had to do that the customer is going to end up paying for.
He's supposed to be a well experienced electrician, I dread to think of the amount of shoddy below standard and even dangerous jobs he may have left over the years.

UNG · Jan 4, 2022

Looking at the state of the plasterboard and the black damp mould on the timber studs in that bathroom all the plasterboard needs stripping back anyway to let everything dry out

Dustydazzler · Jan 4, 2022

UNG said:
Looking at the state of the plasterboard and the black damp mould on the timber studs in that bathroom all the plasterboard needs stripping back anyway to let everything dry out

1000% THIS

I wonder if they ripped all the bathroom out due to a historic damp issues caused by leaky old pipes...

If that were my house or flat I would be stripping out every inch of plaster board and even pull up the entire floor to make sure all the plumbing is sound before covering anything back up

Dustydazzler · Jan 4, 2022

Where on earth does Del keep finding these disaster jobs

timhoward · Jan 4, 2022

Dustydazzler said:
Where on earth does Del keep finding these disaster jobs

Flipping heck. Poor sod. He's too nice.
Wisest words my old gaffer ever said to me - "Never forget you cannot polish a turd". Once those two kitchen sockets were opened up then I'd have cut losses and walked. EICR and Rewire - exactly what he said, but he should have worked harder to explain the futility of it to the customer.
He's now the last one that touched a house with no RCD protection and no ADS for sockets.
At least he stopped in the end.
It's a good reminder of why the regs say that the checks are supposed to happen before extending/altering.

Pretty Mouth · Jan 4, 2022

mainline said:
No its not a problem as such but look at all the extra work he had to do that the customer is going to end up paying for.

What extra work? If you were talking about hours of additional work created, then I would agree with you, but the hole he cut to aid with rodding past the timber would have taken barely a minute or 2. This sort of thing is just part of the job.

It would have taken more time to fetch the endoscope from the van to see what was blocking the way.

mainline · Jan 4, 2022

Pretty Mouth said:
What extra work? If you were talking about hours of additional work created, then I would agree with you, but the hole he cut to aid with rodding past the timber would have taken barely a minute or 2. This sort of thing is just part of the job.

It would have taken more time to fetch the endoscope from the van to see what was blocking the way

He took a long while to just mark out the back box and then a while in having to hack into the noggin.
Nothing was blocking the way, and don't forget the extra time that someone else has to spend patching it up.
Bad planning and shoddy

GLENNSPARK · Jan 5, 2022

Dustydazzler said:
Lets not forget not every job has a massive budget to make significant changes , some jobs the customer only wants to lay out the bare minimum money possible

Del does of lot of HMOs and Rentals which again landlords only prepared to pay for what work is 'absolutely necessary'

Since when did "How much" take priority over safety and compliance...?

Pretty Mouth · Jan 5, 2022

mainline said:
He took a long while to just mark out the back box and then a while in having to hack into the noggin.
Nothing was blocking the way, and don't forget the extra time that someone else has to spend patching it up.
Bad planning and shoddy

You're not being serious. You'd have to be charging by the second for these things to matter, and that wall is already wrecked. And it sure looks like there's a 8" timber blocking the way to me:

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7029 dave · Jan 5, 2022

mainline said:
He took a long while to just mark out the back box and then a while in having to hack into the noggin.
Nothing was blocking the way, and don't forget the extra time that someone else has to spend patching it up.
Bad planning and shoddy

Patching it up, the whole wall needs taking down. That plasterboard is soaking wet, Del was just helping the builder doing his job for him.

mainline · Jan 5, 2022

Pretty Mouth said:
You're not being serious. You'd have to be charging by the second for these things to matter, and that wall is already wrecked. And it sure looks like there's a 8" timber blocking the way to me:
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I must have missed the part where he had to drill through the noggin ?

Mikegh · Jan 5, 2022

What's delroy done now ?

I see dustydazzler is still on his windup

Mikegh · Jan 5, 2022

Schneider must have sacked him

Or maybe he has COVID and had to quarantine the tee-shirt

Dustydazzler · Jan 7, 2022

Del on a recent Eicr , he really does get the worst jobs

Mikegh · Jan 7, 2022

Watched up until he was meggering live cables

Who does that I dunno

nicebutdim · Jan 7, 2022

Mikegh said:
Watched up until he was meggering live cables

Who does that I dunno

Haven't watched the video to see exactly what he was doing, but there's nothing particularly unusual about testing of live cables with a MFT. Same applies in IE.

DPG · Jan 7, 2022

nicebutdim said:
Haven't watched the video to see exactly what he was doing, but there's nothing particularly unusual about testing of live cables with a MFT. Same applies in IE.

IR testing live cables?

nicebutdim · Jan 7, 2022

DPG said:
IR testing live cables?

No idea - the term 'meggering' could equally apply to any test conducted with a Megger or other brand of MFT, some of which are conducted live.

Was it an (attempted) IR test on live cables?

Mikegh · Jan 7, 2022

I meant IR testing live cables

I didn't watch it too closely either

nicebutdim · Jan 7, 2022

Have to watch now

Also have to type more words

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