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Darkwood · Mar 21, 2015

Right ... Just been nudged to set this up by Paul.M and sounds a good idea following recent threads I've done in the Arms..

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Anything to do with the trade or in and around it ...H&S pic's welcome.

[ElectriciansForums.net] Dodgy trade pictures for your amusement! - 1 Million Views!

I've posted this a few times and this is at a mates house following a kitchen refirb several yrs ago.

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Raptor0014 · Feb 8, 2022

timhoward said:
Yes, that is what I meant by most of them not having side entry.
The Chint idea looks possible.
One possible idea/suggestion. Replace the butchered Wiska box, gland the SWA to this, slide behind the angled board and change to tails inside the Wiska box, and then use a KMF?

But isn’t a wiska only rated at max 57a?

So I’d either have to stick a Henley inside or crimp and find a different 100amp rated enclosure?

Raptor0014 · Feb 8, 2022

Not electrical. But the award for this years plumber of the year goes to….

Currently doing an EICR on the same property and the first thing I see (after nearly tripping over the plumbing) as I walk in the garage where the CU is located. But it’s ok as it’s above head height…..

This is also ok in the bedroom as they know to hold it as they plug/unplug stuff

timhoward · Feb 8, 2022

Raptor0014 said:
But isn’t a wiska only rated at max 57a?

That's a good point that I overlooked. Maybe an ABB box, no specified current limit, just a max temperature of 650 degrees?! (compared to 100 degrees for Wiska).
Or just use the Chint....maybe your way was best!

Deleted account · Feb 9, 2022

Raptor0014 said:
Seems the fuse box version won’t work. View attachment 94840

So will have to use this instead.

nx3-4-100fs chint sp & n fused switch unit c/w 100a fuse

Chint have a global supply network with branched and regional offices in the USA, Middle East, Germany, Russia, Brazil, Ukraine, Hong Kong, and Great Britain. As you can imagine their product range is vast which includes MCB’S, RCBO’S, Contactors, Distribution Boards, Home consumer units, Motor...

www.ledcontrols.co.uk

try the wylex one. I always use these. Really robust and side entry possible.

100 Amp SP & N Switchfuse - Metal - 100A Fuse Fitted | Wylex (DSF100M)

Raptor0014 · Feb 9, 2022

Paignton pete said:
try the wylex one. I always use these. Really robust and side entry possible.

100 Amp SP & N Switchfuse - Metal - 100A Fuse Fitted | Wylex (DSF100M)

Can it be wired with the meter supply in from the top and out to the CU from the bottom? I am assuming yes, but wanted to check before I ordered it.

pc1966 · Feb 9, 2022

Raptor0014 said:
Can it be wired with the meter supply in from the top and out to the CU from the bottom? I am assuming yes, but wanted to check before I ordered it.

I have no idea. There is a picture of the innards on the CEF site but I can't see any lable to say if one is input and other output:

100A SP+N Metal Switch Fuse

Metal door and robust metal enclosure, 1.0mm thick steel with low smoke and fume epoxy paint finish

www.cef.co.uk

I doubt it is like the Schneider quadbreak switches where both fuse ends are isolated when off so direction unimportant, but hopefully if you pull the fuse cartridge forward it is isolated before you can touch the end!

Raptor0014 · Feb 9, 2022

pc1966 said:
I have no idea. There is a picture of the innards on the CEF site but I can't see any lable to say if one is input and other output:

100A SP+N Metal Switch Fuse

Metal door and robust metal enclosure, 1.0mm thick steel with low smoke and fume epoxy paint finish

www.cef.co.uk

I doubt it is like the Schneider quadbreak switches where both fuse ends are isolated when off so direction unimportant, but hopefully if you pull the fuse cartridge forward it is isolated before you can touch the end!

Appears they are fed from the bottom. So this is going to be fun as I either need to crimp that SWA to extend, or hope there is enough slack there to re-gland and terminate it longer.

JosephandAmber · Feb 11, 2022

RCBO for outside lights tripping. Turned out that all the brick lights had the backs cut out of them and this was the attempt at a waterproof connection - Heat-shrink over connector block with some silicone on each end.

Deleted account · Feb 11, 2022

JosephandAmber said:
RCBO for outside lights tripping. Turned out that all the brick lights had the backs cut out of them and this was the attempt at a waterproof connection - Heat-shrink over connector block with some silicone on each end.

View attachment 95000

To be fair those brick lights a near impossible to waterproof.

LewisM · Feb 12, 2022

Some questionable conduit work

SparkySy · Feb 12, 2022

Had Western Power out yesterday to a factory shut down so they could assess the incoming supply and fuses. I went round and switched off as much of the distribution as possible before switching off the 200a switch fuse for the whole installation. We sat there for a second or two in silence before I heard a gas blown air heater kick in, mmm that's strange I said that was the main switch for everything?! We agreed to remove the main cut out fuses and have a look in the 200a switch fuse. Oh dear some quality bodgery gone on in the past then!

So that's a 2.5mm twin with the earth cut out, onto the incoming side of a 200a switch fuse with the 120mm tails backed up by a 200a network distribution fuse!!

pc1966 · Feb 12, 2022

SparkySy said:
So that's a 2.5mm twin with the earth cut out, onto the incoming side of a 200a switch fuse with the 120mm tails backed up by a 200a network distribution fuse!!

Am I also spotting a lack of CPC connection to add some icing on that cake-of-fail ?

ipf · Feb 12, 2022

SparkySy said:
Had Western Power out yesterday to a factory shut down so they could assess the incoming supply and fuses. I went round and switched off as much of the distribution as possible before switching off the 200a switch fuse for the whole installation. We sat there for a second or two in silence before I heard a gas blown air heater kick in, mmm that's strange I said that was the main switch for everything?! We agreed to remove the main cut out fuses and have a look in the 200a switch fuse. Oh dear some quality bodgery gone on in the past then!
View attachment 95015
View attachment 95016
So that's a 2.5mm twin with the earth cut out, onto the incoming side of a 200a switch fuse with the 120mm tails backed up by a 200a network distribution fuse!!

What IS the use of having an earth conductor in T&E?

Deleted account · Feb 12, 2022

pc1966 said:
Am I also spotting a lack of CPC connection to add some icing on that cake-of-fail ?

I think an earth would be Pointless as no amount of earth fault current would blow the non existent fuse.

so some thought went into the installation.

pc1966 · Feb 12, 2022

ipf said:
What IS the use of having an earth conductor in T&E?

In this case it is the fuse!

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