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Discuss Unsatisfactory EICR with C2 and FI, advise needed in the Periodic Inspection Reporting & Certification area at ElectriciansForums.net
Is that it little or no explanation as to why they have given a C2 apart from generic statements. I would be asking for more concise clarification as most of that doesn't mean too much.
Agree, I also think it looks somewhat harsh.Is that it little or no explanation as to why they have given a C2 apart from generic statements. I would be asking for more concise clarification as most of that doesn't mean too much.
Tbh not that much more information, although I would have expected more rcd results.Thank you westwood10 and Julie. I am attaching the redacted EICR. Do you mind having a look please?
I'm curious about a label "being in a potentially dangerous condition"... Perhaps it's ready to combust.Is that it little or no explanation as to why they have given a C2 apart from generic statements. I would be asking for more concise clarification as most of that doesn't mean too much.
Thank you UNG and Julie, very helpful.Would agree with what @Julie said regarding the C2's
The high R1 + R2 could be a sticky switch on the socket or a connection that is not as tight as it should be would have been easy to check during the EICR by lifting the socket off
Looks like an EICR carried out by someone with little or no experience of carrying out EICR's IMO
maybe its a very heavy label and could fall on you??I'm curious about a label "being in a potentially dangerous condition"... Perhaps it's ready to combust.
I would get a couple of other quotes.Thank you UNG and Julie, very helpful.
For this electrician, shall I challenge the quality of the EICR and demand more information? I haven't yet paid him. Don't know if I can refuse to pay. The EICR costs £180 and he quoted another £300 to do the remedial work and a satisfactory report.
Trip hazard?I'm curious about a label "being in a potentially dangerous condition"... Perhaps it's ready to combust.
Many thanks for your advice James. The house was built in 2011 and maintained in a pretty good condition. I think that if there are genuine C2 issues, it shouldn't be a big job to rectify.I would get a couple of other quotes.
p.s. you don't need another report that has satisfactory written on it, just attach the invoice for repairs or any other documentation to the original report to show the remedial works have been completed.
And exactly what is he doing for this £300 of remedial work, do you have a breakdownThank you UNG and Julie, very helpful.
For this electrician, shall I challenge the quality of the EICR and demand more information? I haven't yet paid him. Don't know if I can refuse to pay. The EICR costs £180 and he quoted another £300 to do the remedial work and a satisfactory report.
No breakdown. just say "The cost for the remedial work is £300. Following the remedial work complete a satisfactory report will be issued."And exactly what is he doing for this £300 of remedial work, do you have a breakdown
He has marked each circuit as having an rcbo bs60898, but has appeared only to have tested two of them.The lack of bonding clamps can be negated by a wander lead test.
We test the continuity to the pipe work if we cannot access a bond clamp, this is noted and listed as a C3 at worst
Have you had a new consumer unit installed? The electricain has listed the SPD as satisfactory (item 4.20)
I would ask him to clarify how he will repair the C2 item 5.2 in the schedule
Section 6.1 seems interesting- he notes an RCD on the schedule of test results (I am assuming a dual RCD board) but then notes there is not RCD protection on the bathroom / shower room
Item 3.6 - he is contradicting himself- he notes the size of the bond cables as 10mm (bottom of page 7) and then gives a C2 to the same item in item 3.6 - you cannot confirm a cable size and then fail the same item.
BS 60898 is an MCB, BS 61009 would be an RCBOHe has marked each circuit as having an rcbo bs60898, but has appeared only to have tested two of them.
So i wouldn't be surprised if there were two rcbo on socket circuits , and all the rest are mcb and he hasn't filled the schedule correctly.
Op - could you post a photo of the consumer unit - lift the flap so we can make out the actual protection devices?
Its possible the Zs result could still be satisfactory for the circuit protective device used so I would probably give it a C3 or FI but we all have different views on these things.High R1+R2 would be a C2, but doesn't appear to be clear from the results.
I agree with the C3, but FI is not appropriate in my opinion, because a faulty condition has been identified, no further investigation needed for the purpose of the EICR. Fault finding to identify the cause of the C3 is a different matter, and does not come under the heading of FI.Its possible the Zs result could still be satisfactory for the circuit protective device used so I would probably give it a C3 or FI but we all have different views on these things.
It's definitely not clear which reading is being talked about, but none of the R1+R2 listed in the schedule are high enough to cause an issue with the OCPD.Its possible the Zs result could still be satisfactory for the circuit protective device used so I would probably give it a C3 or FI but we all have different views on these things.
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