Help with 6 terminal Junction Box wiring! DIY

Jaylen Goodway · Aug 8, 2022

Hi everyone.

I hope this post finds you well. I have recently hired an local electrician to extend my living room lighting a few cm forwards. Long story short, he didn’t seem to know what he was doing and now my light is On even when I switch it off. I have attached my previous ceiling rose installation, with a diagram of the wiring he did on the new junction box with extension

My living room has two ceiling roses with 2 switches at the end of both sides of room that can turn them both on/off at the same time. I’m only extending one as seen in the pics below.

Can someone send me a diagram of the correct wiring of this junction box please

I do know my way ceiling roses as they are straight forward and fitted a few myself. I also have done electrical courses. And qualified Electric/gas meter engineer.

Kind regards,
Jaylen

littlespark · Aug 8, 2022

Any joints in the ceiling should be made in a box, not just taped up.

I don’t know how an electrician couldn’t figure it out.

It needs someone with a simple two prong voltage detector and find out which brown is turning on and off with the switch.

Where about in England are you? (First two letters of postcode) Someone here might be close by for a look.

Aaron b · Aug 8, 2022

It's just the 3 plate method but using a jb instead of a ceiling rose. I guess you switch cable and mains are crossed over, and assuming normal t&e has been used you have the switched line in the wrong place. It's would be best to meter it out and start again. I doubt this was done by an electrician.

telectrix · Aug 8, 2022

only wayto sort this is a site visit. or OP could use trial and error with a bit of logic and common sense thrown in. i'd have it fixed in under an hour.

littlespark · Aug 8, 2022

telectrix said:
only wayto sort this is a site visit. or OP could use trial and error with a bit of logic and common sense thrown in. i'd have it fixed in under an hour.

And that’s 1 hour, with a cup of tea and a smoke break included.

DPG · Aug 8, 2022

I hate to sound like a certain youtuber, but: "no way did a spark do this."

davesparks · Aug 8, 2022

If an electrician has left it not working correctly then you need to call them and get them to come back and correct their mistake.
You shouldn't be putting right the mistakes of the person you have paid to do the job.

Dustydazzler · Aug 8, 2022

''I have recently hired an local electrician to extend my living room lighting a few cm forwards. Long story short, he didn’t seem to know what he was doing''

Doesn't fill me with much confidence when an electrician can't modify a lighting circuit

Dustydazzler · Aug 8, 2022

I pick up A LOT of work where an electrician / handyman has been in and messed about with the electrics and things either keep tripping or a light won't turn off or turn on etc etc

As much as I wish these handyman electrician types would leave electrics to the professionals , I wouldn't have much work if it wasn't putting right all their feck ups

They are a necessary evil in my world

westward10 · Aug 9, 2022

This was moved from DIY so can we keep in on topic.

timhoward · Aug 9, 2022

@Jaylen Goodway
Can you please confirm that in your diagram, one of the cables entering has TWO brown wires (or one brown and one sleeved brown) and they both go to that terminal?

[ElectriciansForums.net] Help with 6 terminal Junction Box wiring! DIY

Taylortwocities · Aug 9, 2022

In my experience, an artist's impression of wiring can leave out some essential details. It can often be what is believed to be in place but not really.

Best bet is to post a photo of the actual wiring to the junction box.

Thank you!

Aaron b · Aug 9, 2022

It looks like brown twin might have been used in one of those photos, the one where the cables are hanging out of the ceiling.

Help with 6 terminal Junction Box wiring! DIY

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