Dodgy trade pictures for your amusement! - 1 Million Views!

Darkwood · Mar 21, 2015

Right ... Just been nudged to set this up by Paul.M and sounds a good idea following recent threads I've done in the Arms..

Rules....No Offensive material... edit if required before posting as this is the public arena.
Anything to do with the trade or in and around it ...H&S pic's welcome.

[ElectriciansForums.net] Dodgy trade pictures for your amusement! - 1 Million Views!

I've posted this a few times and this is at a mates house following a kitchen refirb several yrs ago.

mg_smile:

pirate · Aug 7, 2022

It'sh show you can shee the sheeling rowsh cos it'sh not obshcured by the shitty shandelier

littlespark · Aug 7, 2022

pirate said:
It'sh show you can shee the sheeling rowsh cos it'sh not obshcured by the shitty shandelier

That’s got to be the worst Sean Connery impression ever

telectrix · Aug 7, 2022

littlespark said:
That’s got to be the worst Sean Connery impression ever

but at least it's bonded.

Mike Johnson · Aug 7, 2022

telectrix said:
but at least it's bonded.

Raptor0014 · Aug 9, 2022

This is a relic. Not sure what the RCD is supposed to be protecting as not a single thing in the property that I’ve tested so far will cause it to trip at 1 or 5x

. Test button works ok though.

I’m aware now it’s a VOELCB and is considered obsolete. Thanks Tim, DPG, Westward and everyone else who replied.

Then I found this. First time I’ve seen a socket tried to be fixed with blue tack! Guessing they got annoyed and smashed the back box off as it wouldn’t hold.

westward10 · Aug 9, 2022

It isn't an RCD.

Raptor0014 · Aug 9, 2022

westward10 said:
It isn't an RCD.

What is it? With the test button and no other discernible markings I just assumed it was an RCD.

DPG · Aug 9, 2022

Raptor0014 said:
What is it?

VOELCB

timhoward · Aug 9, 2022

Raptor0014 said:
This is a relic. Not sure what the RCD is supposed to be protecting as not a single thing in the property that I’ve tested so far will cause it to trip at 1 or 5x . Test button works ok though.

That needs changing mate. Sent you a PM with a video about them.

Raptor0014 · Aug 9, 2022

DPG said:
VOELCB

Thank you. I was wondering how I’d now test it as I believe they’re supposed to trip at 50v.

DPG · Aug 9, 2022

Raptor0014 said:
Thank you. I was wondering how I’d now test it as I believe they’re supposed to trip at 50v.

I don't think I'd worry about testing it!

timhoward · Aug 9, 2022

Raptor0014 said:
Thank you. I was wondering how I’d now test it as I believe they’re supposed to trip at 50v.

Actually irrelevant as you (or someone) will be changing it very soon. TT install?

Raptor0014 · Aug 9, 2022

timhoward said:
Actually irrelevant as you (or someone) will be changing it very soon. TT install?

It is indeed.

Taylortwocities · Aug 9, 2022

Skip is what you need for a VOELCB. Obsolete many decades ago and, mostly wont work any more.
Or the Crabtree museum, most of the VOELCBs were made by Chilton.

Actually, skip is what you need for the fuseboard too!

pc1966 · Aug 9, 2022

As you probably have found out by now, the VOELCB was the predecessor to the RCD but worked on a totally different basis and one that is now considered quite unreliable and long overdue for replacement.

However, the twist in that particular tale is some forms of EV open-PEN detection work on the same principle of observing a CPC to true Earth voltage!

Raptor0014 · Aug 9, 2022

Thanks for all the input.

I knew of the VOELCB but hadn’t actually seen one in the wild. At least now I know why it wasn’t tripping on a RCD test.

freddo · Aug 9, 2022

Raptor0014 said:
Thank you. I was wondering how I’d now test it as I believe they’re supposed to trip at 50v.

Here is the correct test equipment:

pc1966 · Aug 9, 2022

Raptor0014 said:
Thanks for all the input.

I knew of the VOELCB but hadn’t actually seen one in the wild. At least now I know why it wasn’t tripping on a RCD test.

You are way too young to have seen them when they were your only real option for TT systems. I think the first time I saw one was mid-70s and even then it was being replaced!

Taylortwocities · Aug 9, 2022

Blimey, they don't make em like that any more!

Raptor0014 · Aug 9, 2022

pc1966 said:
You are way too young to have seen them when they were your only real option for TT systems. I think the first time I saw one was mid-70s and even then it was being replaced!

I is a spring chicken at 44.

timhoward · Aug 9, 2022

I think this is last edition that included them?

(It seems the 15th edition doesn't list them as protection for direct contact, but they are in other bits of it with note "Residual devices are preferred")

pc1966 · Aug 9, 2022

Come now, lets do it properly:

Taylortwocities · Aug 9, 2022

You must be really old. I only go back this far....

Only 1s/6d though. Bargain

westward10 · Aug 9, 2022

ASEE became incorporated as the IIExE, merged with the IIE who merged with the IEE who became the IET.

SparkySy · Aug 9, 2022

Sorry @westward10 I wanted to give an informative and funny as it is both!
Earliest regs I have a copy of is the 14th edition even though I didn't start till the 16th. All very interesting stuff!!