Views on a code if inspecting

Rockingit · Nov 27, 2022

I’m in a venue (U.K.) at the moment which leaves a lot to be desired in pretty much all aspects but in the process of glancing around I spotted this, below. It’s definitely a C2 but I’m curious as to how people would judge that little bit of connector strip as a potential C1. Genuine question and I’m (thankfully!) NOT doing an inspection.

[ElectriciansForums.net] Views on a code if inspecting

Rockingit · Nov 27, 2022

(And yes, I have seen that the cover is there below it)

westward10 · Nov 27, 2022

Are you saying C2 for the lid off exposing conductors and the block connector?

SJD · Nov 27, 2022

C2, unless there are stray strands of copper waiting to be touched.

Don't you just love switch / plant rooms being used for storage (I'm guessing it is piled up with treads or similar & mats).

freddo · Nov 27, 2022

Looks fairly good otherwise. Put the lid on and you don't have to worry about coding it as removing trunking lids is apparently not part of a condition report.

Rockingit · Nov 27, 2022

SJD said:
C2, unless there are stray strands of copper waiting to be touched.

Don't you just love switch / plant rooms being used for storage (I'm guessing it is piled up with treads or similar & mats).

Absolutely! And yes, it’s ‘safe’ by virtue that you can’t actually get to it.

So, my thinking process is that the choc bloc is effectively a bare connector - we all know that there’s naff all space from where the plastic stops and the screw bloc sits so anyone casually handling it would likely enough be at risk.

nicebutdim · Nov 27, 2022

Rockingit said:
Absolutely! And yes, it’s ‘safe’ by virtue that you can’t actually get to it.

So, my thinking process is that the choc bloc is effectively a bare connector - we all know that there’s naff all space from where the plastic stops and the screw bloc sits so anyone casually handling it would likely enough be at risk.

Limited knowledge here, but would it be a C1 where containment is open and C2 with lid in place?

Pretty Mouth · Nov 27, 2022

I would code C1 with trunking open, no code with lid screwed in place. Not a 'big' C1 though

James · Nov 27, 2022

C2 with lid off, c3 with lid on.

brianmoooore · Nov 27, 2022

nicebutdim said:
Limited knowledge here, but would it be a C1 where containment is open and C2 with lid in place?

No problem at all if the lid is on, and needs tools to remove it.
C1 or C2 with the lid off, depending on the exact construction of the connector, and how well it's fitted.

timhoward · Nov 27, 2022

If I found that I'd rather quickly crimp and heat-shrink the thing than mess about with software giving it a code!

As it stands - I generally think in terms of what could go wrong. An exceptionally talented person could touch live parts.
With lid on or off someone working further along could pull the wires and there's no mechanical restraint other than the choc block itself. If a wire came out ....

Probably C2 for both, maybe C1 if there are multiple wires shoved in and the screws are on the high side.

littlespark · Nov 27, 2022

C3 if the lid was on... Its an enclosure.. no different than a floating connector in a metal joint box. C2 as it is.

However, C1 for all those open 20mm holes in the top of the trunking. (next to the pvc conduit)

And another C1, for the circuit breaker numbering being the same as a mid 90's pop song by Steps.

ipf · Nov 27, 2022

James said:
C2 with lid off, c3 with lid on.

C3 if found....could do with improvement but not a necessity.

freddo · Nov 27, 2022

I once found a faulty connector block inside a length of PVC conduit. You could see the light from the arcing of the poor connection through the wall of the conduit. Wish I still had the video.

plugsandsparks · Nov 27, 2022

Agree with above, would not code it, just fix it and put lid on. More worried about all those dangly cables wonder why they are there

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