Codebreakers getting a update

cliffed · Dec 15, 2023

Things are changing so much in this industry… how are we Electrician’s supposed to catch up when the ruling bodies dont know what’s going on

Spot the difference.. I had to make a change in my not so old book.
its always been a C3 on existing properties

[ElectriciansForums.net] Codebreakers getting a update

Risteard · Dec 15, 2023

cliffed said:
Things are changing so much in this industry… how are we Electrician’s supposed to catch up when the ruling bodies dont know what’s going on
Spot the difference.. I had to make a change in my not so old book.
its always been a C3 on existing properties
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Seems a pointless colouring-in book to me.

westward10 · Dec 15, 2023

I never use those books/guides there should be no need.

cliffed · Dec 16, 2023

westward10 said:
I never use those books/guides there should be no need.

Whatever floats your boat, I don’t mind using it for a reference point, it’s good guidance & useful in times of self doubt

mainline · Dec 16, 2023

cliffed said:
Whatever floats your boat, I don’t mind using it for a reference point, it’s good guidance & useful in times of self doubt

You should never doubt yourself.
Well not unless the place burns down

cliffed · Dec 16, 2023

mainline said:
You should never doubt yourself.
Well not unless the place burns down

Agree… but Life’s not all B&W is it?

mainline · Dec 16, 2023

cliffed said:
Agree… but Life’s not all B&W is it?

No there is also brown, blue, grey etc

Rockingit · Dec 16, 2023

This is where life gets really blurred. We interrogate an installation and provide an opinion for it's safe and continued use, for a period of time.

So here's an entirely hypothetical example.... domestic bungalow occupied by an 80yr old frail widow. It has an old wylex board, no rcd's. The global IR is above let's say 5MOhm, all the necessary bonding is in place although not necessarily to modern sizes, it's a TNS incomer. Are you actually going to make a claim that the lack of RCD protection for cables buried in the walls is a risk to her safety? Using a drill she doesn't own and wouldn't have the strength to lift anyway to fit a shelf that she hasn't needed for the last 40 years?? Because it clearly isn't . As/when she moves out the report we've just written becomes irrelevant anyway because we're told that any change of occupancy of a property warrants a fresh inspection, so the argument of 'someone else might...' is nonsense.

Discuss!

cliffed · Dec 16, 2023

Rockingit said:
This is where life gets really blurred. We interrogate an installation and provide an opinion for it's safe and continued use, for a period of time.

So here's an entirely hypothetical example.... domestic bungalow occupied by an 80yr old frail widow. It has an old wylex board, no rcd's. The global IR is above let's say 5MOhm, all the necessary bonding is in place although not necessarily to modern sizes, it's a TNS incomer. Are you actually going to make a claim that the lack of RCD protection for cables buried in the walls is a risk to her safety? Using a drill she doesn't own and wouldn't have the strength to lift anyway to fit a shelf that she hasn't needed for the last 40 years?? Because it clearly isn't . As/when she moves out the report we've just written becomes irrelevant anyway because we're told that any change of occupancy of a property warrants a fresh inspection, so the argument of 'someone else might...' is nonsense.

Discuss!

Agree no RCD on sockets might be a difficult RA…& maybe the bathroom area other than that jobs a good one…fingers crossed…

westward10 · Dec 16, 2023

As soon as you feel the need to start consulting these books/guides you need to question your own ability to be doing the job.

cliffed · Dec 17, 2023

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westward10 said:
As soon as you feel the need to start consulting these books/guides you need to question your own ability to be doing the job.

That Is just not the case… it’s like saying why take an Exam when you know it all
I remember in the 70’s everything was Taboo the NICEIC wouldn’t give you an inch on anything & tell you nothing, all you had was a Reg Book that was that
These days if a problem arise you have help left,right & centre… & in my opinion the more advice & information the better