EICR Findings - Advice on Coding Required

zvspark · Oct 13, 2024

Hi everyone,

I recently completed a domestic EICR and came across something unusual. There’s a 10mm² twin and earth cable directly connected to the 100A cut-out fuse at the service head. The cable is concealed within the client’s wall and reappears next to the consumer unit, where it connects to a feeding cable that supplies the neighboring property.

After further investigation, I discovered that this cable is supplying power to the off-license shop next door and two flats above it.

Would you classify this as a C2? I’d appreciate your thoughts on this situation.

[ElectriciansForums.net] EICR Findings - Advice on Coding Required

littlespark · Oct 13, 2024

Is this a joke?

Incredibly wrong if this is real. Sod the EICR and just condemn it

mainline · Oct 13, 2024

zvspark said:
Hi everyone,

I recently completed a domestic EICR and came across something unusual. There’s a 10mm² twin and earth cable directly connected to the 100A cut-out fuse at the service head. The cable is concealed within the client’s wall and reappears next to the consumer unit, where it connects to a feeding cable that supplies the neighboring property.

After further investigation, I discovered that this cable is supplying power to the off-license shop next door and two flats above it.

Would you classify this as a C2? I’d appreciate your thoughts on this situation.

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You need to contact the client and inform him that it needs to be disconnected.
If you leave it connected, then you are complicit in theft of electricity.

Dan · Oct 13, 2024

Even I know that should be condemned! Jesus Mary Joseph.

littlespark · Oct 13, 2024

No seals on the main fuses kinda says it all…. Along with the total lack of green/yellow sleeving.

But impressive for that size of cable to be feeding an off license, 2 flats, and I wouldn’t be surprised, at a herb garden in the attic

zvspark · Oct 14, 2024

littlespark said:
Is this a joke?

Incredibly wrong if this is real. Sod the EICR and just condemn it

It's real. I failed tge EICR, but someone from UKPNetworks came, and said that this is not a subject to my report, as it is feeding the next door. I think because the connection is in the living room and the cable passes through the property, it is a subject of my report. Your opinion?

littlespark · Oct 14, 2024

Both right.

It is before any meter, so not part of the fixed wiring that you are testing. Not a final circuit… BUT there is a box on an EICR for “condition of incoming equipment” or whatever… which you can still code.

C1 it on whatever you can. It needs fixed, but I doubt it will be done.

zvspark · Oct 14, 2024

littlespark said:
Both right.

It is before any meter, so not part of the fixed wiring that you are testing. Not a final circuit… BUT there is a box on an EICR for “condition of incoming equipment” or whatever… which you can still code.

C1 it on whatever you can. It needs fixed, but I doubt it will be done.

I took of the covers of the junction boxes. Is it C2 with the covers, or not part of the fixed wiring installation?

zvspark · Oct 14, 2024

mainline said:
You need to contact the client and inform him that it needs to be disconnected.
If you leave it connected, then you are complicit in theft of electricity.

The client is informed, and they informed the UKPNetwork. The from the network said, that it is not part of the installation and I should not code it at all. But the cable passes through the property I am inspecting, and if it overheats, the client is in danger. Am I right?

mainline · Oct 14, 2024

zvspark said:
The client is informed, and they informed the UKPNetwork. The from the network said, that it is not part of the installation and I should not code it at all. But the cable passes through the property I am inspecting, and if it overheats, the client is in danger. Am I right?

I would get the dno to come and look at it.

littlespark · Oct 14, 2024

I was just saying C1 so it might push someone to get it sorted.

The round joint box is only rated to 30A…. The 10mm I would think is undersized… depending what size is in the actual fuse.

Just mention it on your report, get paid, then it’s up to the customer.

zvspark · Oct 14, 2024

littlespark said:
I was just saying C1 so it might push someone to get it sorted.

The round joint box is only rated to 30A…. The 10mm I would think is undersized… depending what size is in the actual fuse.

Just mention it on your report, get paid, then it’s up to the customer.

That is what i am going to do. Thanks mate!