ideal combi mechanical timer

westward10 said:

Can you show some pics?

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neilyboy said:

anyone any experience of these ?
moved house and boiler has mechanical timer ,ideal combi 30,heating comes on when switch set to permanant but with the clock set at the current time it doesnt seem to rotate there is also a thermostat in the hallway.
are they prone to failure ?

Thanks

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westward10 said:

Can you show some pics?

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neilyboy said:

back today,turns out the boiler is 11 months old,the thermostat is a tamperproof stat which only revealed the "dial" after fully removing the cover,I have a feeling the stat is making the clock redundant,without removing the boiler cover and fiddling about I've no way of knowing,anyway I'm hoping to install a hive or similar control so may be back on here shortly........

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mainline said:

If the mechanical clock doesn't keep the time and the boiler fires when you turn the timer to constant, then there's a fault with the mechanical timer.

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neilyboy said:

Ill check tomorrow,Im almost certain that the clock was on the timer when I opened the thermostat and turned the temp up and the boiler fired

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Shooby said:

Hi Neily.

It doesn't really matter if the mechanical clock is faulty or not, as it'll be far better to do as you are considering - leave it switched to 'permanently on' and forget about it. Then replace the wall 'stat with a programmable 'stat that'll handle both the timings and the temps. If you go 'Smart', then you can add App control from your phone, which makes setting times and temps much easier - and you can override it at will, even away from the house.

If you post a photo of the wall 'stat, we can advise on replacements.

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Shooby said:

Hi Neily.

It doesn't really matter if the mechanical clock is faulty or not, as it'll be far better to do as you are considering - leave it switched to 'permanently on' and forget about it. Then replace the wall 'stat with a programmable 'stat that'll handle both the timings and the temps. If you go 'Smart', then you can add App control from your phone, which makes setting times and temps much easier - and you can override it at will, even away from the house.

If you post a photo of the wall 'stat, we can advise on replacements.

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Shooby said:

Hi Neily.

It doesn't really matter if the mechanical clock is faulty or not, as it'll be far better to do as you are considering - leave it switched to 'permanently on' and forget about it. Then replace the wall 'stat with a programmable 'stat that'll handle both the timings and the temps. If you go 'Smart', then you can add App control from your phone, which makes setting times and temps much easier - and you can override it at will, even away from the house.

If you post a photo of the wall 'stat, we can advise on replacements.

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neilyboy said:

some pictures from the boiler...
1st pic is the tamperproof stat with the cover off,2nd pic is boiler control panel opened,left hand cable goes to the stat right hand is 240 supply 3rd picture is left hand side of mechanical timer connections are frost stat and something I cant read....

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neilyboy said:

some pictures from the boiler...
1st pic is the tamperproof stat with the cover off,2nd pic is boiler control panel opened,left hand cable goes to the stat right hand is 240 supply 3rd picture is left hand side of mechanical timer connections are frost stat and something I cant read....

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Shooby said:

Drayton Wiser

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Shooby said:

That 'stat is seemingly the Sunvic TLX2358.

It now depends on how 'involved' you wish to become with your boiler electrics, but I'll have to take a step back if you decide it's 'deeply'.

What I would suggest to a cyber-fellow is to leave the boiler and its kaput mechanical clock well alone, and to instead focus on the Sunvic. Simply by-pass the clock using 'perm on', and then transfer your interest to the wall 'stat.

First, cut the power. Then either prise off the dial on the 'stat to expose the wiring behind (you can look up the installation instructions for the 2358), or unscrew the whole unit from the wall. That will likely reveal that the unit has a Live, a Neutral, and a Switched Live - and possibly an earth. If so, that will allow you to fit the receiver from a range of Smart Prog Stats in its place, and to have the wireless controller elsewhere - even mounted on the wall beside it.

Since I think you understand what's involved, I'll leave it to you to decide whether this is fine, or to connect directly to the boiler, tapping in to that 'stat cable you have identified.

What Smart Prog Stat were you considering?

Since, according to Evo, that boiler is Opentherm compatible, you may wish to extract the mac efficiency out of it by fitting an OT-compatible Prog Stat instead, like EPH, Salus, and the Drayton Wiser (seemingly recommended), but that's for you to work out

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