Building regulations

Bright.Spark · May 1, 2011

Hi I'm doing an extension for a customer at the moment and the building inspector arrived once everything was complete. All I have done is changed the consumer unit it and put lighting and power in the extension but the building inspector said he wouldn't pass the building until I change the smoke alarms in the house to mains powered. Is this correct as the smoke alarms are in the landing and hallway but the building inspector is only inspecting the extension????

telectrix · May 1, 2011

problem is, right or wrong, if the BI says do it , you gotta do it

Des 56 · May 1, 2011

All new and refurbished dwellings to be fitted with smoke alarms, Building regs 1991

Thats the requirement,now the hard part is the interpretation of a refurbished dwelling
To me an extension is not a refurbished dwelling,to your inspector it must be
Who is correct?

If he has the attitude they are needed,he will win any war of words because of the open guess regulation requirement

Paul.M · May 1, 2011

Des has hit the nail on the head.

Explain this to the customer saying that the BI has imposed this upon the building (although you think he is wrong but difficult and expensive to fight) and that you'll do it at X amount of £s, best I can suggest.

telectrix · May 1, 2011

the man in a suit may not have a clue, but he's got to sign the competion certificate. he probably practised his signing on parking tickets last month.

IQ Electrical · May 1, 2011

paul.m said:
Des has hit the nail on the head.

Explain this to the customer saying that the BI has imposed this upon the building (although you think he is wrong but difficult and expensive to fight) and that you'll do it at X amount of £s, best I can suggest.

Yes, I agree, your client will probably agree this as an obvious extra to get the job passed.

I think it's an absolute liberty and a total abuse of the building regulations (Part B).

I can see a case for particular attention to the smoke detectors if another floor was added or a loft conversion etc. but if this is just a bog-standard ground floor extension then he is overstepping the mark.

telectrix · May 1, 2011

is this him?

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Spudnik · May 1, 2011

Agree with everyone.

At the end of the day, like it or not, he has the final say, so its best to just get on with it..

MarkieSparkie · May 2, 2011

Sorry mate, you've just got to go with flow. If you try and fight it, you may win or lose. Either way you will be singled out for nit picking, rigorous inspections henceforth by all the local planning mafia.

mogga · May 2, 2011

sounds like the one brotherInlaw had he wanted an electrical completion cert for a big shed lighting is a roadside genny with extendable lighting on it BI was given a coffee n light rig moved out of shed no he still wanted an EIC even tho the lighting was trailered PILLOK
Iv said it before BIs Surveyors shouldnt be let make any electrical comment at all as they only have a little understanding of the regs and often pick one wee insignificant reg and use it out of context but wont let go of it like a rottwieler

Dunc · May 2, 2011

telectrix said:
is this him?View attachment 5446

Ever heard of Godwins Law Tel?

XKCD does Godwin

Anywho, on topic, i think it generally depends on the scale of the extension. I know when we extended over the garage the building inspector insisted on a LD3 system being installed. I hope for the sake of the OP that the customer isn't unreasonable and insist that he pays for the smoke alarms as he should have been aware that they should be installed. Building inspectors, who needs em?!

telectrix · May 2, 2011

Dunc said:
Ever heard of Godwins Law Tel?

XKCD does Godwin

Anywho, on topic, i think it generally depends on the scale of the extension. I know when we extended over the garage the building inspector insisted on a LD3 system being installed. I hope for the sake of the OP that the customer isn't unreasonable and insist that he pays for the smoke alarms as he should have been aware that they should be installed. Building inspectors, who needs em?!

i have now. but i was not using my favorite uncle to try and win the argument. maybe i should take him to the capping debate and the diagonal runs

Dunc · May 2, 2011

telectrix said:
i have now. but i was not using my favorite uncle to try and win the argument. maybe i should take him to the capping debate and the diagonal runs

I was thinking i was being a little tenuous bringing up Godwin in this circumstance but it's one of the great laws of the internet. Came across it on another forum where Godwins Law is invoked on a regular basis. It's amazing what some people will get irate about when they're sat at a keyboard. Always makes me think about this cartoon.

LINK

telectrix · May 2, 2011

i never take offence. i find a gate is easier to carry.

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