cutoff fuse 60A to 100A?

1shortcircuit · Jun 6, 2011

There is in my opinion an easy solution to this.

All sparks that want to be able to pull the fuse for isolation purposes have to pay a small fee to the DNO to go and do the half day course. All isolators and seals etc can then be purchased by that spark from the DNO directly?

surely anyone who is serious enough about the work they carry out, their lives and the lives and property around them will not even flinch at this suggestion???

Replacing a blown fuse however I still believe should be the responsibility of the DNO.

Just my 2pence worth

1shortcircuit · Jun 6, 2011

ezzzekiel said:
very valid point and good argument, unfortunately it is nigh on impossible to work around the dno when fuses need removing and if they are not willing to offer free courses or run some sort of authorisation scheme then they should be installing isolators at every property the situation as it stands is simply not good enough.

Not sure how I missed your post ezzzekiel

truckster · Jun 6, 2011

ezzzekiel said:
very valid point and good argument, unfortunately it is nigh on impossible to work around the dno when fuses need removing and if they are not willing to offer free courses or run some sort of authorisation scheme then they should be installing isolators at every property the situation as it stands is simply not good enough.

Couldn't agree more but even the system shortcircuit suggests has been kicked around and dismissed by the DNO's.

Take Part P for instance, a totally crap idea that costs genuine sparks money and puts their bills up whilst having zero effect on the chancers that will undercut you because they don't pay out for registration or insurance.

All that is needed to ensure safety is to make it compulsory for every job to be certificated with a registration number unique to each sparks. If the customer has work done which results in damage or injury the sparks respnsible is identifiable and liable. If no certificate is presented the customer is liable and their insurance invalid. Might make the skinflints a bit more wary of employing unregistered ****s
But of course, where's the governments cut in that idea??

Off my soapbox now

NMc · Jun 6, 2011

Like all the threads have said you should not be in the cut out

Similar to an electrical installation you design when you apply max demand and diverisity the DNO do the same to their network. It may have a 60A for a reason

Stay clear

robsparky1975 · Jun 6, 2011

Also a bit of a safety issue for them,even though we have more common sense,when fuses are pulled,if anything went wrong they would also have to prove that there was nothing wrong with what they have installed,hence they say do not touch our equiptment,did know a sparks a few years back who was given temp seals by the SEB,but as you say they have moved the goalposts,i think its all down to the EU safety bits as well.

Lou7 · Jun 7, 2011

Working on a job in West London, you can put your tails into the meter yourself .

[ElectriciansForums.net] cutoff fuse 60A to 100A?

the white screw on the consumers side is a switch.

Richpa · Jun 8, 2011

DnO's will change blown fuses free of charge for genuine faults. The reason for not allowing people to upgrade their cut out fuse is due to the size of the incoming cable. The dno is the only one who knows what size cable is in the street that supplies differents properties. Hence upgrading to a larger cut out fuse could in fact damage or burn out the incoming supply cable belonging to the dno.

truckster · Jun 8, 2011

Lou7 said:
Working on a job in West London, you can put your tails into the meter yourself .
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the white screw on the consumers side is a switch.

At last, a sensible solution!

NMc · Jun 8, 2011

Nicely put Richpa

Being an electrician and able to design and wiring installations does not mean you able able to determine the size of the cut-out fuse. We all know what load we would like to connect and what size we would like the cut out fuse to be, but sometimes it is not available unless the network is up graded and paid for

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