When is a bathroom not a bathroom?

Doomed · Aug 20, 2012

A bathroom is a special location - no problems there then.
So what is a bathroom?
At one time a bathroom would have a toilet, a sink , a shower and a bath. That's OK then.
Some posh places have the toilet in a separate room. So that's a sink a shower and a bath then.
Some tiny flats etc may not have a bath.
So that's a sink and a shower them. I have seen plenty of bathrooms like this, and classed them as a special location as per the wiring regs.
Now increase the size of the room and add a bed, and suddenly its a bedroom with a shower tray and a sink. So do the special location regs still apply?
Not according to some people.

[ElectriciansForums.net] When is a bathroom not a bathroom?

Your thought please.
(and yes I think it is a unfused spur with 3 sockets on it, but that's another story)

Richard Burns · Aug 20, 2012

Simple, the special location is a "location containing a bath or shower", it is not a "bathroom".
You have a special location there and I cannot see those sockets being >3m from the shower!
However of course as the location is defined by the walls of the room if you built a small anteroom on the front of the shower the special location would be up to the door and you would be fine, wonderful things regulations!

Doomed · Aug 20, 2012

How about a shower with a glass door rather then a shower curtain?

And is anyone else seeing the picture that I tried to delete from the first post as a hideous big image?

rich.250 · Aug 20, 2012

I don't think you can count a shower cubicle above the tray as a room....

Just move the socket!! Lol

Richard Burns · Aug 20, 2012

Doomed said:
How about a shower with a glass door rather then a shower curtain?

And is anyone else seeing the picture that I tried to delete from the first post as a hideous big image?

Part of the shower not a room.
Yes big hideous undelteable picture:sad3:

telectrix · Aug 20, 2012

well, that arrangement is perfeclty acceptable in many countries around the world, and to my knowledge, it ain't killed anybody yet.

Silly Sausage · Aug 20, 2012

telectrix said:
well, that arrangement is perfeclty acceptable in many countries around the world, and to my knowledge, it ain't killed anybody yet.

Aye, by the looks of the tea tray, looks like a cheap hotel. I've staggered into many a room like that over the years.

Richard Burns · Aug 20, 2012

Logically there is no way to get the sockets wet and so should be safe, but it would be quite easy to take the kettle into the shower to make your early morning cup of tea!

telectrix · Aug 20, 2012

where else would you fill the kettle?

Doomed · Aug 20, 2012

Should be but not so cheap hotel (Olympic venue right on the sea front), I was there for a different reason but saw this and wondered about how it could be made to comply (and possibly get my boss some work out of it).

ian.settle1 · Aug 20, 2012

Well it's not as bad as the one which actually had the socket in the shower and the person said they did not use the socket when they where in the shower.

telectrix · Aug 20, 2012

so how did they plug their wet and dry eleccy razor in?

MarkieSparkie · Aug 21, 2012

Doomed said:
Should be but not so cheap hotel (Olympic venue right on the sea front), I was there for a different reason but saw this and wondered about how it could be made to comply (and possibly get my boss some work out of it).

Is it in Weymouth mate, at a hotel on the esplanade that employs an in house 'Electrician" by any chance?

Doomed · Aug 21, 2012

MarkieSparkie said:
Is it in Weymouth mate, at a hotel on the esplanade that employs an in house 'Electrician" by any chance?

two out of three - you know the area then? - oh, hang on - you live in Weymouth - D'oH!

snowhead · Aug 21, 2012

Total body immersion is the clue to when it's a special location.

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