Newbie question cannot get fuse out of fusebox

Rupesjoel · Dec 9, 2012

Dear All,

I need to change the fuse in a standard household Ashley fusebox but I cannot pull the fuse out, no matter how hard I try. The fuse looks a like a standard cartridge type fuse(16 A MCB16).

There is a small key in the lid of the fusebox which looks like a paper clip opened out, but I cannot work out how to use that. I would post a photo of the fusebox but I cannot on this forum yet.

Any ideas would be gratefully received.

Many thanks,

Rupes

Steve_P · Dec 9, 2012

Putting things in perspective, the OP was by the sounds of it, trying to do what they thought would be a favour to their landlord and after finding out on here that it wasn't a simple thing to do and would probably end up frying themselves decided to look into getting a qualified spark. Surely by posting the question on here and receiving some sound advice they are now doing something that they probably wouldn't be doing if they hadn't asked the question in the first place - breathing!

GLENNSPARK · Dec 9, 2012

vjsmarwick said:
i cant believe this is a sparks forum and yet every tom dick and harry can ask for advise on doing something we all know they should not be touching.
going by the post by this guy i don't think he should even be allowed out on his own !

" a key like thing in the lid of the fusebox that looks like a straightened paper clip and he cant figure out how to use it "

My god another member of the public about to kill himself through lack of knowledge and it will be marked down as an electrical death how can we keep allowing this to be on our forums.
there must be some way of making it for sparks only ?
I joined thinking i could learn along with my fellow trades men but i am starting to think the information we are posting for all to see is making everyone think that our job is easy and they can all do it ?

quite right....i wonder if he can cross the road safely?...lol...
almost bloody farcical.....in fact it is...

Stroppy · Dec 10, 2012

To be honest I'm still not sure what his straightened paper clip thing actually is!

telectrix · Dec 10, 2012

Stroppy said:
To be honest I'm still not sure what his straightened paper clip thing actually is!

probably the cut-off ends from the sealing wire.

ayjay · Dec 10, 2012

cosy little club here
its not like he,s removed the lid is it
this is a public forum, anyone can ask a question

telectrix · Dec 10, 2012

as above^^^ . nothing stopping anyone asking advice. in this case, the OP was advised to call a sparks. he has said he would. good advice, good response, what's the beef?

KevinS · Dec 10, 2012

telectrix said:
probably the cut-off ends from the sealing wire.

tel, do you not think it should be called the 'stealing' wire?

KevinS · Dec 10, 2012

Rupesjoel said:
I will contact a spark thanks.

in all fairness you can on here asking for advice, should you not be offering the work to one of the lads on here 1st?

Steve_P · Dec 10, 2012

That's surely up to the OP I'd have thought. Yes it would be nice if the post had read "I will contact a spark thanks. Anyone here near Westminster?" but no one can expect that just gotta hope it happens.

Adam W · Dec 10, 2012

ayjay said:
ok can we get away from whats midnight ?lets avoid that crap?
the op is a tenant not a sparky
he simply asked a simple question did he not?
some of you on here beleive yourselves to be above your stations imo
its a public forum --ok

If you feel that strongly about it you could answer the question instead of just moaning about other people not answering it.

markc123 · Dec 10, 2012

Sorry buddy don't mean to cause offence and im not trying to be nasty or unwelcoming......but i can imagine you pulling on those MCB's as hard as you can, and getting confused as to why it wont 'pull out' and then falling on the floor, getting up and trying to pull them again this time straining with all your mite! ..........and this really tickles me

Jonny66 · Dec 10, 2012

Same, could you film it please with some decent music as a sound track? eg Squeeze - pulling muscles from a shell!!:44:

Rockingit · Dec 10, 2012

Of greater concern than the 'hilarity' of the mental images described above, is the actual thought that there may now be a dodgy immersion drawing current through a warped & torn buss-bar with a knackered locking screw on the MCB. :nuke:

After all, it's only a couple of mm of plastic clip that holds it on the DIN rail.

ayjay · Dec 10, 2012

its just a case of being respectful to the o/p

he lives in a rented flat
he knows sweet f/all about fuses/mcb,s
he asked some simple advice

otheres poked their noses in and insulted him by sniggereing
(btw the other supposed sparks can be really stupid)
the post asking "how does a relay/contactor work"

Jonny66 · Dec 10, 2012

ayjay said:
its just a case of being respectful to the o/p

he lives in a rented flat
he knows sweet f/all about fuses/mcb,s
he asked some simple advice

otheres poked their noses in and insulted him by sniggereing
(btw the other supposed sparks can be really stupid)
the post asking "how does a relay/contactor work"

so how does it, cos I dont have a clue?
My station Ayjay is where I want it to be and not where you believe it should be...
Get a sense of humor and keep your own nose out

telectrix · Dec 11, 2012

Jonny66 said:
so how does it, cos I dont have a clue?

as for that, it's quite simple. you apply a voltage to the coil which is wrapped around a ferrous core. this causes the core to become a male magnet, thus attracting the female bit in a spring to clunk up to the magnet, dragging the contacts, which are connected to your supply and load, together. once mating is over and the supply to the coil is coitus interruptus, the female springs back to her own side of the bed , thus breaking contact between the supply and the load.

Jonny66 · Dec 11, 2012

Wow, it's like listening to Attenborough at his best, if only we had pictures:wink5:

Rockingit · Dec 11, 2012

telectrix said:
Jonny66 said:

so how does it, cos I dont have a clue?

as for that, it's quite simple. you apply a voltage to the coil which is wrapped around a ferrous core. this causes the core to become a male magnet, thus attracting the female bit in a spring to clunk up to the magnet, dragging the contacts, which are connected to your supply and load, together. once mating is over and the supply to the coil is coitus interruptus, the female springs back to her own side of the bed , thus breaking contact between the supply and the load.

Click to expand...

And the internal difference between a relay and a contactor?

telectrix · Dec 11, 2012

[ElectriciansForums.net] Newbie question cannot get fuse out of fusebox

there you go. a picture. or do you prefer this one?

Steve_P · Dec 11, 2012

Blimey, you could poke someone's eye out with those.

telectrix · Dec 11, 2012

one thing's certain... she'll never fall flat on her face.

Jonny66 · Dec 11, 2012

Ok, I know all about the 2nd picture and in fact have fiddled about with some very similar:smug:

I'll be honest and leave myself wide open here for lots of deserved "smirking" as Ayjay would put it (I can take it).......but I know very little about contactors and how to wire or use them.

I know they can be used for large banks of fluros but have never used one....so would they be wired thus.........say 6amp MCB line to switch then switch line & N to contactor coil.....then say 20amp MCB circuit (L/N/CPC) to contactor top and out to lights at bottom?

if so why not just use two 10amp circuits?

telectrix · Dec 11, 2012

because you can reduce the size of the conductors required to energise the contactor/s.

Jonny66 · Dec 11, 2012

OK, so using a contactor you could have say 2.5mm conductors feeding lights through the contactor and 1mm for switch through to contactor coil?
instead of two 1.5mm (possibly 2.5mm) circuits without contactor?

Rockingit · Dec 11, 2012

Jonny66 said:
OK, so using a contactor you could have say 2.5mm conductors feeding lights through the contactor and 1mm for switch through to contactor coil?
instead of two 1.5mm (possibly 2.5mm) circuits without contactor?

Sorry....still distracted by the previous page......brb........

Rupesjoel

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