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wilfy54

I am sure there are regulations restricting compressed air in electrical panels. I have searched but cannot find anything. Has anyone any answers?:bucktooth:
 
I occasionally use a tin of compressed air to clean out very dusty distribution boards.
gets in the places the vacuum doesn't
 
wilfy54 said:
No, pneumatic equipment such as solenoids, 5/4 valves etc.
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So are there any regulations restricting the use of electric in pneumatic equipment panels

Or are we just looking to create a training opportunity for another must have certificate to open a panel containing both electrical and pneumatic equipment

Whatever happened to common sense oops sorry forgot HSE abolished it a while ago
 
I don't quite understand the problem here myself, with having a panel with both pneumatics and electrical controls?? Best person to answer this, would be Netblindpaul who's main work revolves around industrial machines etc!!
 
If you are talking about pneumatic controls inside a DB, then the answer is no you cannot, however if you are talking about combining pneumatic controls inside a common enclosure that is only for this purpose then there is nothing wrong with this so long as the panel has warning labels for both pressure and electrical systems.
 
Outspoken said:
If you are talking about pneumatic controls inside a DB, then the answer is no you cannot, however if you are talking about combining pneumatic controls inside a common enclosure that is only for this purpose then there is nothing wrong with this so long as the panel has warning labels for both pressure and electrical systems.
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Ah, the inequitable need for warning labels... What would we all do without them ...lol!!

Can't think there would ever be a need to have pneumatic controls in a DB. The OP must be talking about a purpose made panel that contains both pneumatic controls and electric controls, which was probably supplied by the manufacturer of a machine or some other equipment...
 
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i work in a large factory and most of our control panels have electronics and pneumatic combined.
the only problem is the lube oil from the silencers covering everything!!
how else would you control such equipment? most the panels are just 24v control gear for i/p p/i transmiters, solenoid plugs, flow controllers etc but then there are a few panels that do contain 240v and 415v motor control equipt as well as pneumatics.
i have done a couple of festo training courses on pneumatics and cant remember any regulations regarding not combining them.
having recently done a compressed gas safe course though, such cylinders should not be store in an enclosure with a source of ignition.

allister
 
This what you are looking for:

EN 60204-1:2006+A1:2009 Section 11.2.2. Physical separation or grouping
Non-electrical parts and devices, not directly associated with the electrical equipment, shall not be located within enclosures containing controlgear. Devices such as solenoid valves should be separated from the other electrical equipment (for example in a separate compartment)
 
Engineer54 said:
Ah, the inequitable need for warning labels... What would we all do without them ...lol!!

Can't think there would ever be a need to have pneumatic controls in a DB. The OP must be talking about a purpose made panel that contains both pneumatic controls and electric controls, which was probably supplied by the manufacturer of a machine or some other equipment...
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I don't make the rules, and it is also good practice to warn people that a panel/enclosure may contain system under pressure and also electrical energy..I really do not see your problem.
 

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