Car chargers/Professional Electrician

Deleted member 9648 · Jun 14, 2013

Anyone read the article on car charger points in the latest PE mag?
It talks about earthing systems and states that if a garage is NOT on a TNS/TNCS earthing arrangement it may not be possible to install an electric car charger port as a TT earth means there has to be 10m between it and any conductive parts on the garage.....Cant see anything specific in the BGB on electric car chargers so where is this coming from?

amlu · Jun 15, 2013

had a catalogue from nic/eca/elecsa selling their overpriced gadgets. some of them are vehicle charging points, mentioning "special communication" between vehicle and socket? .... are they any different to a 16amp socket? or just 10x the price and fancy enclosure?

Silly Sausage · Jun 15, 2013

amlu said:
had a catalogue from nic/eca/elecsa selling their overpriced gadgets. some of them are vehicle charging points, mentioning "special communication" between vehicle and socket? .... are they any different to a 16amp socket? or just 10x the price and fancy enclosure?

Yet another money making opportunity landed on their laps?!?!

What's happened to their Charitable status, can't seem to find it on the NICEIC website?
Hope you all get share options when they go PLC!!!

Sharpend · Jun 15, 2013

If you attended a course you'd learn that the reason that people are advised against the standard plug top are; 1) it needs 10-12hrs to fully charge, 2) can not claim any grants for install 3) does not communicate with car to optimise battery life.

Hence the different Mode chargers.
But then that's why there is a course for ELVC! Now who's the idiot?

Silly Sausage · Jun 15, 2013

Sharpend said:
If you attended a course you'd learn that the reason that people are advised against the standard plug top are; 1) it needs 10-12hrs to fully charge, 2) can not claim any grants for install 3) does not communicate with car to optimise battery life.

Hence the different Mode chargers.
But then that's why there is a course for ELVC! Now who's the idiot?

Certainly not me!
I got all my electrical quals through 'Proper' Further/Higher Education establishments, at a reasonable price, not money grabbing enterprises like NICEIC and all these training providers.

I'm all for training, just the way one goes about it that concerns me.

Sharpend · Jun 15, 2013

Seeing as I wasn't paying I wasn't particularly bothered, although I will confess they didn't have the best presentation I've seen for a course. So I wouldn't necessarily pay to attend!!

Rockingit · Jun 15, 2013

Sharpend said:
If you attended a course you'd learn that the reason that people are advised against the standard plug top are; 1) it needs 10-12hrs to fully charge, what has that got to do with how it's connected?! 2) can not claim any grants for install if it's only £10 for the parts, who needs a grant? 3) does not communicate with car to optimise battery life. Nor does my mobile, nor does my Li-on cell charger, etc....they all have it 'built in'.

Hence the different Mode chargers.
But then that's why there is a course for ELVC! Now who's the idiot?

:dupe: I'm saying nothing.

Sharpend · Jun 15, 2013

If you knew about the different connection devices then you know that they have differing charge times.
I'd also like to see you run a car on you mobile phone battery!

still seeing as you know so much then I can't teach the un-teachable. Sorry

Engineer54 · Jun 16, 2013

Sharpend said:
If you attended a course you'd learn that the reason that people are advised against the standard plug top are; 1) it needs 10-12hrs to fully charge, 2) can not claim any grants for install3) does not communicate with car to optimise battery life.

Hence the different Mode chargers.
But then that's why there is a course for ELVC! Now who's the idiot?

That's fair enough, but do you really need a training course, to explain those points?? Surely every every mode charger for a particular make of car (unless they are standardised universal mode chargers) would come with a set of installation instructions and user manual etc!!

As a matter of interest, what did this training course cover??

GLENNSPARK · Jun 16, 2013

telectrix said:
could it be "let's make up a new regulation" at the niceic tea party?

and lets make up a new course n all...
NIC electric vehicle charging course £129 for registered....£150 for registered....both + vat
course duration= 1 day

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Engineer54 · Jun 17, 2013

Then just wait until the C&G institute sees another money making qualification they can tap into, the same way they cottoned on to the PAT testing Cert!!!!

Then you'll have all the non technical idiots calling for this cert, if you want to install such a system, same way they do now for anyone who wants to carry out brain numbing PAT testing!!