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Lordy9099

• Jun 23, 2013

• #1

Hello,

I am just about to fit my new alarm and just one little thing is bugging me. The tamper circuit. Firstly I am having 2 Door Contacts, 3 PIR's 1 Keypad and 1 Live Bell box. Now I know about the Bell Box and Keypad tamper but I am not sure about the PIR and contact? I will be running each PIR on it's own zone and the door contacts on zone one. Now then this is a Accenta G4 and I was planning to run one cable per sensor or contact. So firstly when I run my first cable to the front door and I wrap both tamper cables across one of the brass contacts. When it come's back to the panel and I run the other cable over to the back door and the cable again runs to the panel to I connect one white and green cables from each circuit. But my main problem that I am wondering is do I connect the tamper cables from both the contacts and the sensors together or double up into the taper circuit. And how do I connect both door contacts to the same zone?

 

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tazz

• Jun 23, 2013

• #2

You need to run tamper and zone circuits in series, so if both cables run back to the panel then if tamper circuit is white & green. join both greens and terminate, the both whites are conected to the tamper circuit...the same wiring for the zone

 

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Lordy9099

• Jun 23, 2013

• #3

Is that even if the sensors are on their own zones do the zone circuits and tampers connect together. And do the tamper from the contacts connect to the sensor tampers?

Thanks

 

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tazz

• Jun 23, 2013

• #4

Give me a few minutes and will do you a drawing

 

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Lordy9099

• Jun 23, 2013

• #5

Thanks

 

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tazz

• Jun 23, 2013

• #6

All wiring is in series, so pirs and door contacts are all wired the same, hope this helps.

 

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Lordy9099

• Jun 23, 2013

• #7

Thanks that is how I planned on wiring the contacts but are the sensors the same even if I run one sensor per zone and do the tamper from both contacts and sensors also connect together or are they separate and double up in the panel tamper circuit?

 

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• Jun 23, 2013

• #8

Follow tazzs drawing for all your sensors it just carries on one after the other.

 

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v.elec

• Jun 23, 2013

• #9

Just use 5 amp connector block in panel for tamper network. Green in, white out, green in, white out on each connector, seems to be the best way for me.

 

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Lordy9099

• Jun 23, 2013

• #10

v.elec said:

Just use 5 amp connector block in panel for tamper network. Green in, white out, green in, white out on each connector, seems to be the best way for me.

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But is this for everything. For example should there only be two cables to tamper and not doubling up?

 

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trev

• Jun 23, 2013

• #11

Is there any point in having the PIRs on a tamper? By the time someone has messed with them they should have picked up their presence and sounded the alarm

 

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Lordy9099

• Jun 23, 2013

• #12

trev said:

Is there any point in having the PIRs on a tamper? By the time someone has messed with them they should have picked up their presence and sounded the alarm

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If you are running your cables along the wall then it could be easy to just cut the cable before you are in sight of the PIR and then the PIR will become inactive. With a tamper circuit if the cable is cut then the alarm will activate

 

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v.elec

• Jun 25, 2013

• #13

Lordy9099 said:

But is this for everything. For example should there only be two cables to tamper and not doubling up?

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If this is an Accenta G4, then there will be separate tamper for bell box and RKP.

The TA is tamper terminals for zones (PIR sensors and door contacts) and any internal sounder. And yes, only two wires into TAMP terminals - one from each end of connector block. You should not do any doubling up in TAMP terminals as this means you would not have a global tamper network for all zones together, all sensors should be wired in series so they are all on the one tamper loop.

 

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tazz

• Jun 26, 2013

• #14

v.elec said:

If this is an Accenta G4, then there will be separate tamper for bell box and RKP.

The TA is tamper terminals for zones (PIR sensors and door contacts) and any internal sounder. And yes, only two wires into TAMP terminals - one from each end of connector block. You should not do any doubling up in TAMP terminals as this means you would not have a global tamper network for all zones together, all sensors should be wired in series so they are all on the one tamper loop.

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The TA terminals are for the external siren, the TAMP terminals are for the global zone circuits

 

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Lordy9099

• Jun 26, 2013

• #15

I am going to wire the tamper for the PIR's and the door contacts in series but do I have to join the tamper from both the contacts and PIR's together.