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Chris sparky

Evening chap.

I have a job coming up soon and part of It involves moving the consumer unit.
Im thinking of using the Wagobox topjob line of din rail terminals and enclosure. Neatness and easy of installation are the key factors here obviously.

Has anybody on here used them before and were they any good?
Prices see good but maybe some of you know of a Better alternative?

Apologies for any typo's im using new touch screen tablet and my fingers are like tennis racket handles lol.

Cheers
 
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Im not sure about your exact needs but you could just use and adaptable box and either through crimps, wago's or connector blocks. All would fit in an adaptable box and I'm guessing would be cheaper??

Jay
 
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The Wago box and din rails would make a nice neat job, just be sure the customer is aware there will still be a big box where that previous big box used to be.
I haven't used the wago ones but I have heard they are easy to use., however it is amazing how fast the cost jumps once you realise how many terminals you will need.
 
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Explain why?? I understand the connector block but why not the Wago or through crimps???? Both will achieve the same outcome at a cheaper price.
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Because a big wodge of crimps isn't as nice to work with as a neat row of labelled terminals with the cables fanned out into them. Sometimes it's not all about price!
 
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Jay Sparks said:
Explain why?? I understand the connector block but why not the Wago or through crimps????
Both will achieve the same outcome at a cheaper price.
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Simple you should not crimp solid conductors. It reduces the CSA, leaves the conductor weak where it enters the crimp and the crimp will not give an adequate connection. Crimps on stranded only.
 
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telectrix said:
din rail and connectors in an adaptable box for me. a rat's nest of crimps or loose wagos rattling round in a box is a no go.
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Dont get me wrong tel, if the customer is willing to pay for it doing this way then of course its the best way. But people dont want to pay loads for something thats going to be hidden away in a box anyway. Neatness doesnt enter their brains. Just the cost!lol
 
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din rail and connectors in an adaptable box for me. a rat's nest of crimps or loose wagos rattling round in a box is a no go.

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Jay Sparks said:
Absolute rubbish man!!!
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Care to back that up with some facts ??

i have come across a lot of loose/ burnt connections when solid conductors have been crimped especially with cheap crimps and even cheaper crimping pliers.
Try a wiggle and pull test next time you crimp solid. I can bet you will either loosen the connection or it will snap with little movement. Now try it with stranded. You will find it is different again. There is a good reason the MOD would not allow crimps on solid but would on stranded.
The above is referenced to standard cables used in domestic situations not large LV and HV conductors that still are crimped.
Only my opinion you do what you like. It will provide remedial works for someone else to repair. Do it in my house you would be ripping it out and starting again.
 
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mechelec said:
Care to back that up with some facts ??

i have come across a lot of loose/ burnt connections when solid conductors have been crimped especially with cheap crimps and even cheaper crimping pliers.
Try a wiggle and pull test next time you crimp solid. I can bet you will either loosen the connection or it will snap with little movement. Now try it with stranded. You will find it is different again. There is a good reason the MOD would not allow crimps on solid but would on stranded.
The above is referenced to standard cables used in domestic situations not large LV and HV conductors that still are crimped.
Only my opinion you do what you like. It will provide remedial works for someone else to repair. Do it in my house you would be ripping it out and starting again.
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Not a chance mate!! I do it right first time, every time. And I always use proper crimping tool and I double crimp and test.If the crimp comes loose after a tug, It comes straight off and I start again. If its done properly, it is a maintenance free joint!


Jay

P.s. I also use decent crimps.....not the cheap crap from ebay!!lol
 
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