So it's anyone's guess. In domestic where I work, people will weigh up all sorts of factors besides the economic - peace of mind vs. potential distress, sentimental value of the equipment that might be damaged, their own personal level of risk aversion etc. etc. And why shouldn't they?
Some good points, but it's not just ability to pay, it's also individual choice and priorities. Concepts that are lost on too many in this age we live in.
Fascinating conversation folks!
One quick note about some of the graphs others have shown above - I think when they refer to appliances they are not just referring to electrical appliances. So gas heaters for e.g. would be included.
Interesting, thanks. It was one of JW's videos about SPDs where he stated that a key reason for needing SPDs is that modern electronics don't have transformers and so the entire devices is exposed to any surges. He described how an SMPS works and it didn't seem to me to offer separation. But...
Lots of interesting info, thanks. The issue of how to track down a fault is one thing that concerns me, too. I think I'd probably proceed something like this:
1. Ask the customer to switch everything off and see if it will reset. If so ask them to try to note over time if it trips when a...
Thanks for reply - I should have been clearer, this doesn't relate to a specific job but is just me thinking around the issues. Most of the premises I work on are not 'high risk' or otherwise required to have AFDDs.
I'm aware of the fact SPDs are required unless the customer opts out, while...
You're welcome! And thanks also!
You may be right that they will not save many lives. And I'm not a proponent of the 'one life anywhere' argument - it may sound callous but what do we all eat if we put all our resources into saving one life? Everything is a risk/benefit analysis. It's a...
Ahhhh yes but the customer might want them and might be happy to pay for them. Who am I to make a value judgement on their cost/benefit analysis?
Personally if I was doing a CU in my own home I'd probably fit an AFDD for the kitchen sockets but not bother elsewhere.
Thanks for reply timhoward.
So here's my thinking: I'm ideologically in favour of giving the customer as much choice as possible. For a while I have, where appropriate, quoted for a 'bare bones' job as cheaply as possible (to secure the job), and offered optional extras / pricier options that...
My understanding is that a SMPS does not separate, like a SELV transformer, the secondary from the primary. Therefore presumably the equipment supplied cannot be IEC protection class III. So what class is the equipment? For example a laptop with an SMPS, metal body and high resistance...
Haven't been on here for a while, so sorry if this has been discussed before.
BS7671 2018 + A2 Regulation 421.1.7 recommends AFDDs for "single-phase AC circuits supplying socket outlets..." (requires in certain premises). My intention is that from September 27th I will recommend them to...
Yes, I did notice that lack of a definition. I'm inclined to agree with your definition. So in this case maybe the plastic will do. It does make me wonder though - if a container contained beds, which would one use?
Interesting one. As far as I can tell it's for a single family use (not on a holiday park, business or such like). So in that sense I would say it's domestic. But then (again as far as I can tell) nobody will be sleeping in it. I say as far as I can tell - have only spoken to the guy on the...
So in your opinion does the requirement for it to be class II negate the general requirement for it to be non-combustible (don't have me regs book in front of me to check the number but we all know the one)? It will not be installed in the room with the actual showers, so IP55 or 65 maybe not...
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