Surely a functional test would have picked this up as nothing could work - Line and Neutral will be at the same potential. Unless I've completely misunderstood.
But that something (the fire) is not (necessarily) related to the electrical installation. If there was an exposed live part something else would have to happen to make it dangerous - someone would have to touch it - but that doesn't make it a C2. That said I don't do EICRs, so I'm probably...
I'm a bit late here, but just thought I'd add my own thinking as food for thought. I may well be wrong.
EICRs: C1 if it is anywhere likely to impede escape or fire fighting activities; the logic being that another fault does not have to occur for this to be dangerous - a fire could originate...
Thanks for the useful recommendation!
I do note however that the RCBO fitted in the charger is rated 10A not 13A. Personally I'd feel more inclined to fit Commando sockets if most EV chargers do come with the plugs - cheaper, and would even enable 16A charging. Just a thought.
DNOs fit TN-C-S systems to save money so we have to add earth electrodes.
Charger manufacturer's presumably fit unreliable DC RCDs in the chargers so we have to fit additional ones in the installation.
Socket manufacturers make 13A sockets that can't handle 13A so we have to fit special ones...
Or maybe even any 13A plug or socket should be capable of handling a 13A load. But I suppose that's too much to expect of manufacturers these days :rolleyes:
More a question of the shear number of courses one could pay for, and worse, schemes one could join. You know there's no end to the people who'll happily take you money to open up a supposed new market. To justify the cost you'd have to specialize and then what happens when gov decides to pay...
I'd certainly be interested in the course if you can post any details?
I do think however that the existence of BS 7671 Section 722 suggests that this will suffice, at least for simple installations, as otherwise EV charging points would just be excluded from the scope and reference made to the...
I'd certainly be interested in the course if you can post any details?
I do think however that the existence of BS 7671 Section 722 suggests that this will suffice, at least for simple installations, as otherwise EV charging points would just be excluded from the scope and reference made to the...
As I understand it the CoP is not mandatory in the way British Standards are - in time I will buy it to help with best practice, but for now I just wanted advice on how to implement the relevant parts of BS 7671 in practice. Thanks for your input anyway.
Thanks for the very useful info, link, and picture! I might check with the customer if his car comes with a Commando plug. If it does, I might suggest installing a socket for this as the consensus seems to be that these cope better with the sustained high current (as one might expect).
This would seem to me to make a lot more sense. I mean none of us know what will be invented in 50 years time and plugged into the sockets we are fitting now. So surely the onus should be on the charger manufacturers to make them safe to use with the sockets that are dimensionally compatible...
I took that to mean 'where the manufacturer of the vehicle/charger approves the use of a BS 1363-2 socket', not 'where the socket manufacturer approves the use of the socket for car charging'. This has been removed from the 18th ed. which perhaps supports my interpretation? After all, why...
Thanks, this starts to make more sense! So the charger incorporates a (presumably type B) RCD, and a type A is installed in the circuit for a socket routinely used for charging as an extra precaution.
I think I will quote assuming type A, but tell my customer that I've made some assumptions...
Thanks, this starts to make more sense! So the charger incorporates a (presumably type B) RCD, and a type A is installed in the circuit for a socket routinely used for charging as an extra precaution.
I think I will quote assuming type A, but tell my customer that I've made some assumptions...
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