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    New sub board for shed swa advice.

    I wouldn't have a clue who it was aimed at, but I can assure you I am not bigbob1, because I'm not following all that he has posted, and I believe whilst it may need discussion that this thread is not the place to be discussing exporting PME, because that really is off topic. So, sorry for...
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    18th.Edition 411.3. 1.2 Doubts in my mind !

    This regulation relates to whether the incoming service is an extraneous-conductive-part or not. If it is not then it does not need bonding as one.
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    New sub board for shed swa advice.

    It wasn't just hitting the live, it was through the live and cpc. However, the install was not correctly tested, and the cpc was vaporised when the installation was energized, i.e. the dead testing which should have been done, and wasn't would have found the fault. Ergo the negligence of the QS...
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    New sub board for shed swa advice.

    Not doing his job properly, he was prosecuted under HASAWA s7, liability for acts and or omissions whilst at work. The install had been done in a domestic premises by his then employer, he was the QS and signed the job off as safe. A young lady died a long while after the installation was...
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    New sub board for shed swa advice.

    No fee, it's a attitude thing, if you know what it is, and you believe in it and understand it, then that is what e5 is about.
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    New sub board for shed swa advice.

    Really Ian, I think that you will find that all of the e5 members will agree with me about the application of law, including all the founder members. Would you like me to ring one of them? Oh, and I'm not "pretending" to support e5. That hashtag has been there for quite a while now. If you know...
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    New sub board for shed swa advice.

    Someone earlier asked if Rob was around, now, I have seen Rob state on here many times that BS 7671 is not the be all and end all of electrical works. There have been several posts on this thread where I have posted extracts from the law, and persons have indicated that they disagree, ergo...
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    New sub board for shed swa advice.

    I think that the posts regarding the exporting of a PME earth are clouding the question somewhat. Why can it not be understood that when an person is at work, HASAWA & if they are involved with electrical systems EAWR applies to them and their work. Regardless of where this work is done...
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    New sub board for shed swa advice.

    Murdoch, the only one of those that you don't have free access to is GN5.
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    New sub board for shed swa advice.

    OK Murdoch, I'll tell you, because, it seems that nobody understands the requirements of the law when it comes to safe electrical installations. It seems that people think they are exempt from the law when working on domestic jobs. They are not, and HASAWA and EAWR are still relevant, after the...
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    New sub board for shed swa advice.

    I am fully understanding the situation, and this is not just my opinion it is that of many others, and other organisations. The task of work is being done when the domestic electrical installation is being designed, constructed, inspected and tested, or do you not charge for the domestic...
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    The daftest change or addition in the 18th edition

    This is correct and has been in the LAW of the land for many years, but electricians seem to believe that they are above compliance with the law of the land in which they live and work.
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    New sub board for shed swa advice.

    Going back to basics is needed here so that the requirements can be understood. I can assure you that I am NOT wrong, (this is NOT just my opinion), if you listen to, read and understand the posts I have made then this can be understood. Firstly it must be understood that HASAWA applies to all...
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    New sub board for shed swa advice.

    Someone installed the work, and if they did this as part of a business, which we are discussing, not DIY, then the installation works and the requirement for compliance with EAWR of the installation was there when it was installed, thus the installer was required to comply with the law of the...
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    New sub board for shed swa advice.

    Any installer anywhere.
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    New sub board for shed swa advice.

    So, EAWR requires that any conductor that may become "inadvertently charged" must be suitably earthed, my wording, the original is earlier in the thread. If, EAWR does not apply to installations under BS 7671 why is this contained there in? The Health and Safety Executive (HSE) welcomes the...
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    The daftest change or addition in the 18th edition

    The a.c. to AC etc was not to harmonise with Europe it was to harmonise with the IEC.
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    New sub board for shed swa advice.

    So if this is true and the installation does not comply with EAWR, how does the installer comply with HASAWA Reg 3?
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    New sub board for shed swa advice.

    No, you are wrong, not me. Look at HASAWA, and this is NOT just my view point. 3 General duties of employers and self-employed to persons other than their employees. So how does this NOT apply to householders when the install is crap and endangers them. The install is done by employers or their...
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    New sub board for shed swa advice.

    You are missing the point the doing of the installation is under the control of the "electrician" no matter where they have been since or after, that job was under their control, they were at work, thus, EAWR & HASAWA applied at that time. Employed or Self-Employed both apply.

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