Nearing retirement and have given up working for myself as it was getting just too tiring and taken a job with a housing association, no pressure, limited paperwork, nice and easy slow down to when I eventually stop.
Had been running like this for 3 years - we got called in as they never got a cert off the original electrician and he told them to stop pestering him a few months back.
When put back correctly we found many isues that caused the RCD's to trip - shared neutrals, pinched neutral to back box in...
No, in a domestic setting little Timmy I see as the responsibility of its parents, in, say, a rental I may be more concerned about some wall lights.
In a commercial personally I think we should plan for the severely daft, there are some real morons around and they will try to blame others for...
This is where regulations meet commen sense, if the fitting is lighting up the signs at first floor level (like most of them are) then fine, you need at least a ladder to reach them and therefore should know what your doing and at least wont be stood in a puddle of rain water.
The low level ones...
Now if I had a bathroom where I could touch an exposed 240V lamp I would C2 the fitting, yet these lights we can't decide on.
C3 if out of reach, C2 for low level.
I dunno, going to sleep on it.
See this is where I'm conflicted, to me the IP ratings suggest that 23 would not be suitable for long term outdoor use (in this climate), but the manufacturers have seemingly designed this as an outdoor light.
and yet later today went to fit some IP 45 lights in a soffit and got this:
Outside walls with IP23 lights that even a short person like me can touch. (sign lights)
What coding would you give? I would be tempted with a C2 but these are recently fitted lights by a professional design company on the outside of a public use building, they couldn't of made such an error...
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