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  1. J

    RCBO energy consumption

    The most on the RCBOs, was 9.3 watts. The 20A model. Quite significant.
  2. J

    RCBO energy consumption

    Of course that has to be taken into account.
  3. J

    RCBO energy consumption

    I have the impression a split RCD CU would consume less.
  4. J

    RCBO energy consumption

    Thx. Found that via Google. So far it does not answer my Q. Interesting though.
  5. J

    RCBO energy consumption

    I want to know how they work. Going further, for e,g., if someone is going on a month or twos hols, turning off the not used RCBOs, leaving only the alarm and fridge circuits, may make a difference.
  6. J

    RCBO energy consumption

    What was the conclusion?
  7. J

    RCBO energy consumption

    On a wider note, MODEMs, TVs, Sound Bars, neon lights, Oven LED clocks, etc, combined with DP RCBO losses are substantial over a year. With say 15 DP RCBOs averaging 4W over a year, that is the equiv of having 15 LED 4W lamps on 24/7/365. As I said: do they consume zero when manually switched off?
  8. J

    RCBO energy consumption

    Mine are Wylex a being warm to the touch. Not hot, just warm. Warmer than the surrounding ambient. You need to take the front panel off to touch them. That they consume energy is not in dispute. They do. It is whether they still comnsume energy when they are switched off it what I want to know.
  9. J

    RCBO energy consumption

    Wylex specs says full load losses are 1.5 to 2.6 watts per pole. DP is twice the load of SP. You must have noticed RCBOs are warm all the time, even when there is no load running through them. This also makes the insides of a metal CU case warmer. I assume the 1.5 watts is no load energy...
  10. J

    RCBO energy consumption

    RCBOs consume between 1.5 and 2.5 watts for each pole - according to Wylex. Have a CU with largish bank of DP RCBOs then the annual cost of just having RCBOs is substantial. It is not just a few quid a year in electricity costs to have them. My question is: Do RCBOs still consume electricity...
  11. J

    AFDD in 18th 2nd Amendment

    It is not a novel to read while in bed.
  12. J

    AFDD in 18th 2nd Amendment

    ..or use firm words with no ambiguity.
  13. J

    AFDD in 18th 2nd Amendment

    A sensible post. The regs are a part of the building regulation which are law.
  14. J

    AFDD in 18th 2nd Amendment

    After all this you still do not get it.
  15. J

    AFDD in 18th 2nd Amendment

    Only of you read page 18. This came about because of the ambiguity of whether AFDDs must or not be fitted in certain situations.
  16. J

    AFDD in 18th 2nd Amendment

    Yes it MUST be.
  17. J

    AFDD in 18th 2nd Amendment

    I do not think it is pointless. They are still using ambiguity to the point they need a definition. They are using legacy writing. They can keep the definition of course as most of the regs were written way back. But future writings must be direct and clear and unambiguous.
  18. J

    AFDD in 18th 2nd Amendment

    The regs date back many, many, decades, with some words in the regs being there before any of us were born. Thanks for highlighting Churchill. He used words in vogue at the time. Words can be trendy, or the thing to write at the time. The French always say the English never say what they really...
  19. J

    AFDD in 18th 2nd Amendment

    I can see why they had to put in their own definition. The regs were written over decades by many people, using different words. They are not using the correct words. So much they have to put in definitions. If I was writing it, and I have done tech' writing, I would use the word must not...
  20. J

    AFDD in 18th 2nd Amendment

    Thanks. Getting clearer. But still some grey here.... Definition of normative: 1 : of, relating to, or determining norms or standards normative tests. 2 : conforming to or based on norms normative behaviour normative judgments. Note it says: behaviour. Like it was normal behaviour for...

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